GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I've ran into a problem: given firefox extension released under GPL as shipped (.xpi files) has obscured .js files -- all formatting was removed. I've asked the upstream to provide proper source code, but so far he effectively refused to do that, although it seems to be a very simple operation to

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Poole
Yaroslav Halchenko writes: I've ran into a problem: given firefox extension released under GPL as shipped (.xpi files) has obscured .js files -- all formatting was removed. I've asked the upstream to provide proper source code, but so far he effectively refused to do that, although it seems

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Mon, 2007-29-01 at 14:06 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: I've ran into a problem: given firefox extension released under GPL as shipped (.xpi files) has obscured .js files -- all formatting was removed. So, if I read your comments correctly, the .js files aren't intentionally obfuscated.

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 04:25:56PM -0500, Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-29-01 at 14:06 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: I've ran into a problem: given firefox extension released under GPL as shipped (.xpi files) has obscured .js files -- all formatting was removed.

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: I was able to run the JavaScript code through GNU indent (http://www.gnu.org/software/indent/ ) and get readable and modifiable output. I think there are some special-purpose JavaScript beautifiers out there that could give even better

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
So, if I read your comments correctly, the .js files aren't intentionally obfuscated. Whitespace has just been removed in order to speed up download. It may be misguided, but it's also pretty common among JavaScript programmers. Except the javascript file is zipped in a .xpi file, making

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Ben Finney
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: However, the GPL requires the prefered form for modification to be provided. And what the author uses to modify is definitely not the whitespace-free version. Given that the only difference between the

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Joey Hess
Mike Hommey wrote: However, the GPL requires the prefered form for modification to be provided. And what the author uses to modify is definitely not the whitespace-free version. The same could be true of any secret modifications to any program made by its upstream author. Perhaps the debhelper

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2007-30-01 at 08:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: The point is that the recipient isn't getting the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it and can't therefore fulfil the terms of the GPL when distributing the work. It's obvious that some transformations are acceptable

Re: Python Software Foundation trademark policy

2007-01-29 Thread MJ Ray
Christmas came and this thread was dropped... just to tie off: Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Passing off is a little different, so I don't want to confuse that with trademarks. That's not something I know much about; a reference on the difference would be

Re: GPLed software with no true source. Was: Bug#402650: ITP: mozilla-foxyproxy

2007-01-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Joey Hess wrote: The same could be true of any secret modifications to any program made by its upstream author. They'd have to be publicly knowable, though, so secret modifications don't really work. Perhaps the debhelper that I actually develop is written in a very