Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello Shane, Bacula is nearing the end of a development cycle and the next version will be released in a matter of weeks, so I would like to revisit the problem that recently came up with the Bacula license. My purpose is not to debate the issues but rather come up with a plan forward for

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Gervase Markham
Kern Sibbald wrote: 2. You recently mentioned to me that GPL v3 may be a solution. Like Linus, I don't see any reason to switch to GPL v3, but if using GPL v3 makes Bacula compatible with OpenSSL AND all distros are happy with that, it seems to me to be an easy solution. I know that GPL v3

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Shane M. Coughlan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kern Kern Sibbald wrote: What I would like: I would like Bacula to be able to be freely used by all distros without licensing problems with any Open Source software including OpenSSL. snip 1. Convert Bacula to use gnutls. One Debian user is

Re: GPL v3 app with copied GPLv2 or later source and linked against LGPL-2 or later libraries

2007-07-12 Thread Joe Smith
Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes All the gnucash source code used in gpe-cash is GPLv2 or later. The Gtk frontend for gpe-cash is GPLv3 or later. I am therefore using my option to

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:06:14PM +0200, Shane M. Coughlan wrote: 2. You recently mentioned to me that GPL v3 may be a solution. Like Linus, I don't see any reason to switch to GPL v3, but if using GPL v3 makes Bacula compatible with OpenSSL AND all distros are happy with that, it

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 12 July 2007 18:06, Shane M. Coughlan wrote: Hi Kern Kern Sibbald wrote: What I would like: I would like Bacula to be able to be freely used by all distros without licensing problems with any Open Source software including OpenSSL. snip 1. Convert Bacula to use gnutls.

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 12 July 2007 18:06, Gervase Markham wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: 2. You recently mentioned to me that GPL v3 may be a solution. Like Linus, I don't see any reason to switch to GPL v3, but if using GPL v3 makes Bacula compatible with OpenSSL AND all distros are happy with that,

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Joe Smith
Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Shane, Bacula is nearing the end of a development cycle and the next version will be released in a matter of weeks, so I would like to revisit the problem that recently came up with the Bacula license. My purpose

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 16:41 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : How do we get there? It seems to me that there are a number of alternatives: 1. Convert Bacula to use gnutls. One Debian user is working on this, but it is not a small nor an easy project. And though it is something I consider

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 20:18 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : It seems a real pity to me that the GPL is so restrictive -- it should make my life as a programmer easier, but it has in fact made it harder. The main point of the GPL is not to make your life easier, but to prevent your code

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 12 July 2007 22:52, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 16:41 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : How do we get there? It seems to me that there are a number of alternatives: 1. Convert Bacula to use gnutls. One Debian user is working on this, but it is not a

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 12 July 2007 22:59, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 20:18 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : It seems a real pity to me that the GPL is so restrictive -- it should make my life as a programmer easier, but it has in fact made it harder. The main point of the GPL

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 23:42 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : This flaw of the GPLv3 is at least good for something. If your GPL software can now be included in the HP-UX or AIX distribution, it can also be included in Debian. Well, I don't consider the above a flaw. The flaw

Re: Bacula and OpenSSL

2007-07-12 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Friday 13 July 2007 01:31, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007 à 23:42 +0200, Kern Sibbald a écrit : This flaw of the GPLv3 is at least good for something. If your GPL software can now be included in the HP-UX or AIX distribution, it can also be included in Debian.