Re: [cl-debian] cl-rfc2109: requesting comments

2007-11-27 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Luca Capello dies 25/11/2007 hora 19:33:
 Back in October 2006, Pierre Thierry asked if these parts could be
 allowed even if not-free [4], but no one answered him.  Since I'm not
 a license nor an RFC expert, here I am :-)

Now that I think of it, quoting a copyrighted material doesn't give you
free material: you're not allowed to modify this quoted part, or you
would denature the original work, which is in utter violation of the
copyright, AFAIK. So it would still be better to remove those parts of
the RFC.

Quickly,
Pierre
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Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-27 Thread Josselin Mouette
clone 451799 -1
retitle 451799 evince should depend on poppler-data
reassign -1 wnpp
retitle -1 RFP: poppler-data -- Encoding data for the poppler PDF rendering 
library
block 451799 by -1
thanks

* Package name: poppler-data
  Version : 0.1.1
  Upstream Author : Adobe, Red Hat
* URL : http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
* License : non-free, see below
  Programming Lang: None
  Description : Encoding data for the poppler PDF rendering library

This package contains the encoding data needed to view some PDF
documents with libpoppler.

The copyright is the following:
Copyright 1990-1998 Adobe Systems Incorporated.
All Rights Reserved.

Patents Pending

NOTICE: All information contained herein is the property of Adobe
Systems Incorporated.

Permission is granted for redistribution of this file provided
this copyright notice is maintained intact and that the contents
of this file are not altered in any way from its original form.

PostScript and Display PostScript are trademarks of Adobe Systems
Incorporated which may be registered in certain jurisdictions.

However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files;
they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. Do you
people think it could be suitable for main?
(Please follow-up on -legal only for licensing discussions.)

Ondrej, are you willing - if the legal problems are settled out - to
package it? Otherwise I guess me or any of the co-maintainers could do
it, the packaging is absolutely trivial.


Le lundi 19 novembre 2007 à 02:25 +0900, Hideki Yamane a écrit :
  New evince package displays Japanese characters wrong. Broken.
  Please see attached image file, one is opened CP-06.pdf with evince 
  (Screenshot-CP-06.pdf.png), and another is with Adobe Reader (shows 
  fine). I heard same problem from other people on IRC.

The new poppler version needs some specific files that contain some
mappings between Unicode and other encodings, which are in a separate
package.

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Re: [cl-debian] cl-rfc2109: requesting comments

2007-11-27 Thread John Halton
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:58:14PM +0100, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
 Now that I think of it, quoting a copyrighted material doesn't give you
 free material: you're not allowed to modify this quoted part, or you
 would denature the original work, which is in utter violation of the
 copyright, AFAIK. So it would still be better to remove those parts of
 the RFC.

I'm still not sure that quoting such small parts of the RFC would
infringe copyright, even if they are modified. Infringement of
copyright requires either the whole or a substantial part of the
copyright work to be copied, and I'm not convinced the headings would
constitute a substantial part. But that's the issue, rather than
whether they are modified or not.

(Incidentally, I suspect the question of modifying the quoted sections
would become relevant when assessing fair use, but I assume the
policy is not to rely on fair use given that it is a US-centric
concept.)

However, as I said before the safest approach (while still retaining
some usefulness) is to remove the text of the headings while retaining
the paragraph numbering. So it sounds like we're agreed on the
practical action (unless you think the paragraph numbers should be
removed as well, which I think would be over-cautious).

John

(TINLA)


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