Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-12-03 Thread Osamu Aoki 
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:22:49PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
  However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files;
  they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. Do you
  people think it could be suitable for main?
  (Please follow-up on -legal only for licensing discussions.)
  
  Ondrej, are you willing - if the legal problems are settled out - to
  package it? Otherwise I guess me or any of the co-maintainers could do
  it, the packaging is absolutely trivial.
 
 It's already packaged in pkg-freedesktop SVN, but it was rejected by
 ftp-masters due licensing problems.

If problem is only modification right, why not uploading to non-free?

Osamu

Re: JOGL in Debian

2007-12-03 Thread Francesco Poli 
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:37:40 +0100 Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

 Hello,

Hi!

 
 I am one of the developer of Scilab. We are rewriting the GUI from
 scratch using Java (Swing) and JOGL.
 Since we prefer to have Scilab packages available (especially because
 Scilab is going to change his  license to a free one),

That's really good news!
Which license are you considering to switch to?

 we need to have
 JOGL in Debian. I did a debian package of the latest version of JOGL
 ready to be incorporated in Debian.
 However, it seems that there is an issue highlighted by Fedora and
 Robert Schuster.
 A part of the code of JOGL is under the SGI Free License B. The FSF
 says that it is not a free license [1]. It is why Anthony Green
 removed it from Fedora.
 The defense of the dev of JOGL, Ken Russell [2] and Tom Marble [3]
 (both from Sun) is that both Fedora and Debian are shipping Mesa with
 the *exact same code* with the same license.

Firstoff, from a technical point of view, shipping the *exact same code*
in two different packages does not seem to be a good idea.
Could this duplication of code be avoided?
Is it possible to link or otherwise use the code included in the mesa
package, rather than packaging another copy of it?

Anyway, from a DFSG-freeness point of view, that license is indeed
problematic: see http://bugs.debian.org/368560 for the details.
Unfortunately, there seems to have been too little progress on this bug
so far.

 
 If we are shipping SGI Free B code in debian, I guess we can accept
 JOGL in Debian ?
 
 What is your opinion(s) on this ?

I don't think that the existence of a bug should be seen as a
justification for adding another bug...


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Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-12-03 Thread John Halton 
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:23:24PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 If problem is only modification right, why not uploading to non-free?

That is certainly one option, but that may be over-cautious based on
the previous discussion on this thread.

John

(TINLA)


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