patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Tom spot Callaway, from Red Hat, announced [1] that Fedora won't be including any game of the kind of Frets on Fire, Stepmania, pydance, digiband, or anything of the kind of DDR or Guitar Hero, due to patent concerns [2]. Due to patent concerns, we won't be able to include any games in Fedora

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any thoughts on that? Software patents continue to chill adoption of innovations. Fight the corresponding legislation at every opportunity. -- \ When I was little, my grandfather used to make me stand in a | `\ closet for five minutes without

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread John Halton
On Jan 18, 2008 10:22 AM, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom spot Callaway, from Red Hat, announced [1] that Fedora won't be including any game of the kind of Frets on Fire, Stepmania, pydance, digiband, or anything of the kind of DDR or Guitar Hero, due to patent concerns [2]. Due

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
John Halton wrote: I haven't been able to find out whether there are any equivalent patents outside the US, so it may be this is a US-only (or perhaps Japan also) patent. What is Debian's policy as regards software that is encumbered by patents in one jurisdiction but not others? There is a

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread John Halton
On Jan 18, 2008 12:20 PM, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a European patent EP1064974B1 and a Japanese application JP2001009152. Thanks. You can locate family members by going to http://ep.espacenet.com/numberSearch?locale=en_EP entering one member's number (US6347998 in

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, John Halton wrote: 1. A game system comprising: an input apparatus which is manipulated by a player; performance data memory device which stores performance data stipulating a series of manipulations of said input apparatus arranged in correspondence with a

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Miriam Ruiz dijo [Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 11:22:58AM +0100]: Tom spot Callaway, from Red Hat, announced [1] that Fedora won't be including any game of the kind of Frets on Fire, Stepmania, pydance, digiband, or anything of the kind of DDR or Guitar Hero, due to patent concerns [2]. Due to

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Joe Smith wrote: That is not sheet music, but more of a raw storage of notes, timings, and durations (not too unlike a midi file). What else is sheet music but a storage form of notes, timings and durations? But the key here is that this specifies that the interface must

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 16 janvier 2008 à 14:55 +, MJ Ray a écrit : We have allowed exactly the same conditions by using software with trademarked names. Where? The naming rights asserted above seem much broader than what a trademark allows. Trademarks have many limitations. If we have named

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 12:06 +, John Halton wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 10:22 AM, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom spot Callaway, from Red Hat, announced [1] that Fedora won't be including any game of the kind of Frets on Fire, Stepmania, pydance, digiband, or anything of the kind of

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Joey Hess
Miriam Ruiz wrote: A game where targets move across the screen to a predetermined point or line, where the player hits a button/key/mouse click as the target(s) crosses that point or line, and gets points. Any thoughts on that? Nice description of space invaders. -- see shy jo

Re: patents on Frets on Fire, Pydance, StepMania and such games

2008-01-18 Thread Joe Smith
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, John Halton wrote: 1. A game system comprising: an input apparatus which is manipulated by a player; performance data memory device which stores performance data stipulating a series of