Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Olly Betts
On 2009-04-17, Ken Arromdee wrote: > (And I was also under the impression that Debian follows the wishes of the > copyright holder, so it doesn't matter if this argument has any legal merit, > just that the FSF makes it.) Note that there's no FSF copyright code in the xapian-bindings upstream tar

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Olly Betts
On 2009-04-17, MJ Ray wrote: > Olly Betts wrote: >> For reference, this is #513796 in the BTS. > > Will you summarise/link or should we cc? Good question. Since I didn't Cc: the start of the thread, I'll update the bug with a link to this thread, and summarise the consensus if/when one is reach

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Olly Betts
On 2009-04-17, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:09:57 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Olly Betts: >> >> > To summarise, php5-xapian wraps the GPLv2+ licensed Xapian library for >> > PHP v3.01 licensed PHP5. >> >> The PHP license is fine if you use Xapian under the GPLv3. > > The F

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:09:57 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Olly Betts: > > > To summarise, php5-xapian wraps the GPLv2+ licensed Xapian library for > > PHP v3.01 licensed PHP5. > > The PHP license is fine if you use Xapian under the GPLv3. The FSF seems to disagree: quoting from http://www.gn

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Olly Betts: > To summarise, php5-xapian wraps the GPLv2+ licensed Xapian library for > PHP v3.01 licensed PHP5. The PHP license is fine if you use Xapian under the GPLv3. The remaining problem is the Zend license, which contains an advertizing clause. For historical/political reasons, the FSF

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > >I was under the impression that the FSF thinks that if it's illegal to > >link a program with GPL software and distribute that, it's also illegal if > >you > >just distribute the other program and have the user do the link. > HOW? I hope the FSF d

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Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , Ken Arromdee writes On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, MJ Ray wrote: http://trac.xapian.org/ticket/191 makes me think the combination only happens at compile time, so including unused source would be OK. I was under the impression that the FSF thinks that if it's illegal to link a program with

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, MJ Ray wrote: > http://trac.xapian.org/ticket/191 makes me think the combination only > happens at compile time, so including unused source would be OK. I was under the impression that the FSF thinks that if it's illegal to link a program with GPL software and distribute that,

Re: php5-xapian: PHP licence vs GPL

2009-04-17 Thread MJ Ray
Olly Betts wrote: > For reference, this is #513796 in the BTS. Will you summarise/link or should we cc? [...] > Steve Langasek: > > There are several other PHP extensions in circulation that use GPLed > libraries, some of them distributed with the PHP source itself. (The > readline

License packaging dudes / libnet-snmp openssl and GPL

2009-04-17 Thread Eduardo Ferro
Hi. I have the following license related doubt: There is a upstream code with GPL license, that link dynamically with libsnmp (http://www.net-snmp.org/). Libsnmp can be compiled with or without openssl support. The upstream code don't use the parts of libsnmp that supports encryption and needs op