Re: Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-08 Thread Mahyuddin Susanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/06/2011 11:51 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:04 +0100, W. Martin Borgert a écrit : (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: gnetworktester seems to parse the

Re: Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-08 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2011/3/8 Mahyuddin Susanto udi...@ubuntu.com: Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes it useless without that program, what is the difference with dynamic linking to a library? To a

Re: Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 07:30 -0800, Ken Arromdee a écrit : Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes it useless without that program, what is the difference with dynamic linking to a

Re: The Evil Cookie Producer case

2011-03-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, and thanks for the effort of providing the complete information. Le lundi 07 mars 2011 à 09:31 +, Andrew Ross a écrit : The software itself is the current version of iText, which is licensed under the AGPL with the following additional term: In accordance with Section 7(b) of the

Re: The Evil Cookie Producer case

2011-03-08 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 8/03/2011 16:45, Josselin Mouette schreef: Hi, and thanks for the effort of providing the complete information. Le lundi 07 mars 2011 à 09:31 +, Andrew Ross a écrit : The software itself is the current version of iText, which is licensed under the AGPL with the following additional

Re: Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-08 Thread Ken Arromdee
The distinction between a derivative work and a separate work is not based on technology but on functionality. Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes it useless without that program, what is

Re: Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-08 Thread Walter Landry
Miriam Ruiz mir...@debian.org wrote: In general, I wouldn't consider parsing the output of another program to de a derivative work. In general, I do agree with Miriam that parsing the output of another program does not make a derivative work. But just to give an example of where it does

Re: The Evil Cookie Producer case

2011-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Andrew Ross: In accordance with Section 7(b) of the GNU Affero General Public License, you must retain the producer line in every PDF that is created or manipulated using iText. What is a producer line? Is this visible on the page, or is this some information in the PDF header? In any

Re: The Evil Cookie Producer case

2011-03-08 Thread Andrew Ross
On 08/03/11 15:53, Bruno Lowagie wrote: Copy/paste from a previous answer. If company B is using iText, Company B is bound by the license. This doesn't mean the producer line can't be changed; there are different options to add extra data: - They can add data to the existing producer line