Re: [POSITION SUMMARY] Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-09 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian T. Sniffen) writes: Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have thus, even with STENOG included, satisfied the terms of the INVERT license. Now, there is a potential problem. Remember that scripting language

Re: [POSITION SUMMARY] Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-09 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:10:05AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Now, there is a potential problem. Remember that scripting language mentioned before? If someone were to write a script that used both INVERT and STENOG, and then distribute that

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-10 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
in general if you began by looking for an answer, instead of guessing at one. -Brian -- Brian T. Sniffen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.evenmere.org/~bts/

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-10 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
frames as it runs -- which are copyrightable. Where's the problem with this, exactly? Please provide examples. -Brian -- Brian T. Sniffen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.evenmere.org/~bts/

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-11 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
constitutes an original work of authorship? There seems to be little creativity involved. Sure there is -- but it's performed by the person who wrote the plugin, as he sculpts the interface to fit to the host, and to provide useful functionality to it -- not merely by itself. -Brian -- Brian T

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-11 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony DeRobertis wrote: A ''compilation'' is a work formed by the collection and assembling of preexisting materials or of data that are selected, coordinated

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-14 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 15:16, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: That would seem to fit much better than derivative work, yes. However I do wonder whether the combination of host and plugin constitutes an original work of authorship? There seems

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have little patience for superstitious beliefs, and less still for people who claim to be defending the tender feelings of the ignorant. But why use names correlated with evil when other options are available which interfere less with Debian's

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-14 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 15:34, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Right, but since the plugin author clearly intended it to fit with and accompany the host, there's no creativity on the part of the combiner. And we're well back into argue it in court territory

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-16 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Dec 14, 2003, at 22:18, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: For someone to later pair it with Emacs has no creativity, so that packager hasn't earned a copyright, but the pairing is under copyright Yes, but if there is no copyright generated

Re: SRFI copyright license

2003-12-24 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Every SRFI contains a reference implementation, and bears this copyright notice: Copyright (C) /author/ (/year/). All Rights Reserved. This document and translations of it may be copied and

Re: SRFI copyright license

2003-12-30 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Jakob Bohm wrote: The main trick is to distinguish between the original full text SRFI (the document) and the free software (document that excerpts or derives from the document). Sure, but if you take that tack, the prohibition of modification of

Re: popular swirl...

2003-12-30 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 10:28:10PM +0100, Jörgen Hägg wrote: Somehow the swirl on this page seems familiar... :-) http://www.elektrostore.com/ (The picture is here: http://www.elektrostore.com/Bilder/electro_loga.gif ) Hell that's not just familiar that's a blatent rip.

Re: DFSG Freeness of Patent Reciprocity Clauses

2004-01-05 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Don Armstrong wrote: If You institute patent litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the Work constitutes direct or contributory patent infringement, then any patent

Re: DFSG Freeness of Patent Reciprocity Clauses

2004-01-06 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Nathanael Nerode wrote: Brian Sniffen wrote: Would the following be considered Free by anybody here? If You institute litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the Work

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-01-12 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: uncertain about whether you should disable the automatic generation of .elc files. Why ? We clearly are not violating the GPL by doing so, so where is the problem. If

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-01-12 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:12:13PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: uncertain about whether you should disable the automatic generation of .elc

Re: Non-free package licenses and replacements

2004-01-24 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the RFCs, if Debian cannot live with different degree of freedom depending on the nature of the software it brings (RFC are not programs, and by nature, there is no point in being able to modify freely a standard like RFCs) Nonsense. You know well

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-01-25 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 21, 2004, at 21:27, Henning Makholm wrote: It is not clear to me that this text talks about APIs at all. It seems to be about the *internal* structure of a database, which - in my opinion at

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: Worse, the QPL is not DFSG-free

2004-07-12 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
On Jul 9, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 05:54:05AM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Package: ocaml Version: 3.07.2a-2 Followup-For: Bug #227159 The compilers are also distributed under the QPL, which is And ? What is the problem ? Even RMS and the FSF

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