Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-06 Thread Joe Smith
"Arnoud Engelfriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ Ray wrote: Don't trademarks apply even less to included executable file names than to package names? They're not even used to label anything supplied in trade. They are names of controls used to operate the ma

Re: http://pdphoto.org/

2006-11-08 Thread Joe Smith
"Maarten de Boer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I would to know if the use of 'public domain' photos from the website http://pdphoto.org/ to be distributed with an application would be considered DFSG-compatible. Most photo's come with a link to the CC pub

Re: photo licenses

2006-11-08 Thread Joe Smith
"Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maarten de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to allow just about any use of the work, while still > retaining copyright, you can distribute your work under the Expat >

Re: main or contrib?

2006-10-25 Thread Joe Smith
"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please clarify for me, in which section should go a GPL-licensed package, which is quite unusable without (but technically not Depends on), er, obscure blobs of data, usually gathered by a way

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Arnoud Engelfriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > However I didn't see a signature in the text file. > Only the guy's name. At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned "affirmative acts") is what make cli

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Joe Smith
"Juan M. Mendez" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of the code with a notice starting with.

Re: New draft of GFDL and GSFDL

2006-10-04 Thread Joe Smith
"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Time to see what we would need to change to make it DFSG-free. On a quick readthrough of the SFDL, it looks like this to me: * Unlike the GFDL, no Invariant Sections or Cover Texts. And they can't be added, so it

Freeness of current draft of GNU SFDLv1

2006-10-02 Thread Joe Smith
The folowng is ann analysys of the DFSG freeness of the current draft of the GNU SFDL. I was only looking to see if the problems with the current FDL are resolved by the SFDL. There may be new problems that I did not notice. I used Manoj's draft position statement to identify the problems with t

Re: Apache v2.0 and LGPL

2006-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
"James Westby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have what I believe will be a fairly simple question (at least I hope so). I am looking at packaging mod_gnutls, a work that is under the Apache Software License v2.0, and links against GnuTLS, which is under the

Re: Vim's user manual bug closed: reopen?

2006-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should be done, in your opinion? Nothing. The ftpmasters decide what is free or not, not you, not I, not debian-legal as a whole (?). Well you can check with the particular ftp masters

Re: [Fwd: Re: Problem with license of msv-xsdlib]

2006-09-14 Thread Joe Smith
"Eric Lavarde - Debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I sent the below email already a while ago, but didn't receive any answer. Can someone tell me what's wrong? Did I miss some important point of netiquette, or FAQ to read before asking stupid questions?

Re: Bug#385115: Sorry, no more RC bugs for non-free data in main (was: Bug#385115: chromium-data: Unclear license for some files)

2006-08-31 Thread Joe Smith
"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: In this case, I see one rather obvious issue (there may be others): Steve Langasek has said, in essence "When A says X, an

Re: Moving "blockade" from non-free to main?

2006-08-13 Thread Joe Smith
Cross posted to ensure OP sees this. Please continue on d-legal. "Harald Dunkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks, I am pretty optimistic to clarify the license conditions for blockade (http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/blockade.html), making it possible to m

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-08-06 Thread Joe Smith
"Lionel Elie Mamane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 03:16:26PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: "Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a lot of complicated wo

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-08-06 Thread Joe Smith
"Lionel Elie Mamane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 12:57:11PM +1000, Andrew Donnellan wrote: On 7/29/06, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The FSF is really not concerned about online games. That is because th

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-08-02 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This License permits you to make and run privately modified versions of the Program, or have others make and run them on your behalf. However, this permission terminates, as to all such versions, if you bring suit

Re: Proposed new IETF license

2006-07-29 Thread Joe Smith
"Simon Josefsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The IETF lawyer has written a proposal for a new outbound license to third parties for IETF documents (i.e., most RFCs and I-D). We're given one week to review it in a working group last call. Most likely there will

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Andrew Donnellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even moving all logic to the server side can't stop it. Online games especially need to be able to distinguish the 'official' client from a modified one. Even if all logic is on the server side, the client still rece

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Andrew Donnellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >versions to play those DVDs. If the work communicates with an online service, it must be possible for modified versions to communicate with the same online service in the same way such that the service cannot dist

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a heads-up. http://gplv3.fsf.org/ There's a lot of complicated wording changes from the first draft of the GPL v.3. (They all look like improvements to me, but there's a lot to digest.) And there's a new dra

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-19 Thread Joe Smith
"Henning Makholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scripsit "Robinson Tryon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My guess is that the lawyers who drafted the GPL knew or believed that the courts would interpret such a "written offer" like a coupon: you have to physically (or elect

Re: License issues with metasploit-framework

2006-07-18 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And my favourite # Yo yo, this be da socketNinja. # Alpha-2.0 release # Distribute and get a visit from tireIronNinja which I don't think is free. It lacks (at least) permission to modify and distributed modifie

Re: Geant4 Software License, version 1.0

2006-07-05 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would be interested to hear your opinions on the Geant4 Software License, version 1.0 [1]. [...] [1] http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/license/LICENSE.html I think it is clearly GPL-inc

Re: Debian Open Use Logo License - is it compatible with...

2006-07-03 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AIUI, the logos are considered trademarks. The "licence" strongly implies that Debian does not claim copyright on the open use logo, but merely trademark rights

Re: Debian Open Use Logo License - is it compatible with...

2006-06-30 Thread Joe Smith
"Eddy Petrişor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, I was thinking on making a logo for the Debian Games Team but I need to combine the open use logo with an icon which is distributed under a different license. My questions are: 1) Are any of the following l

Re: shc -- #335278 broken packaging -- non-DD NMU prepared

2006-06-30 Thread Joe Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:58:59AM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: /** * 'Alleged RC4' Source Code picked up from the news." * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John L. Allen)" * Newsgroups: comp.lang.c" * Subject: Shrink this C code for f

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-06-20 Thread Joe Smith
"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] George Danchev wrote: I believe that the reason to have that in Sofia-SIP's libsofia-sip-ua/su/strtoull.c is that it comes that way from the original contributors like University of California and Sun Microsy

Re: DomainKeys license(s) (Re: Hello and request for sponsor (DomainKeys packages))

2006-06-20 Thread Joe Smith
"Magnus Holmgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 17 June 2006 23:02, Joe Smith took the opportunity to write: "Magnus Holmgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] yte.s

Re: Hello and request for sponsor (DomainKeys packages)

2006-06-17 Thread Joe Smith
"Magnus Holmgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Section 3.3 says "You must create Your own product or service names or trademarks for Your Licensed Code and You agree not to use the term "DomainKeys" in or as part of a name or trademark for Your Licensed Code.".

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-06-16 Thread Joe Smith
libsofia-sip-ua/ipt/rc4.c The package also contains files written by Pekka Pessi. These files are distributed with the following copyright notice: Copyright (c) 1996 Pekka Pessi. All rights reserved. This source code is provided for unrestricted use. Users may copy or modify this source code

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Joe Smith
"John Goerzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] First of all, corporate winds can change. But really my point is not that SPI should have rejected this license. My point is that SPI should have been consulted about the indemnification so that we could get the advi

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Joe Smith
"John Goerzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:05:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think these are all very reasonable statements. Not being an ftp-master, it's not really my decision to make, but my personal opinion is that the above is

Re: Sun clarifies intent of the DLJ

2006-06-06 Thread Joe Smith
"George Danchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 06 June 2006 07:58, Tom Marble wrote: We have made an updated revision to the DLJ FAQ (now version 1.2) which is publicly available at [5]. The preamble to the FAQ has been specifically re-written to clari

Re: GPL violates DFSG point 3

2006-06-01 Thread Joe Smith
"Andrew Donnellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/1/06, Karl O. Pinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The GPL is not "completely unmodifiable", you just have limitations on how you may modify it and still use it as a license. The FSF has given blanket permission

Re: license of cstex / cslatex

2006-05-27 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Because on the one hand the copyright holder says that no further restrictions (beyond the ones found in the GPL terms) can be imposed on recipients (see GPLv2, section 6). On the other hand he himself adds one such re

Re: license of cstex / cslatex

2006-05-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Thomas Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, the teTeX package contains files which use the following license: COPYRIGHT = This macro package (csplain.ini, il2code.tex, csfonts.tex, hyphen.lan, plaina4.tex) is free software; you can redis

Re: Revised Bacula license

2006-05-21 Thread Joe Smith
From: Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trademark: The name Bacula is a registered trademark. I assume there is an implicit trademark licence. In this case an implicit licence is probably better than an explicit one, solely because it is virtually impossible to word a trademark licence to allow

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-18 Thread Joe Smith
"Bill Allombert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Notes: (1)Insert the first year the software was made available to the public as well as any subsequent years in which a modified version is made available. The last two paragraphs must be in capital letters t

Re: Help Selecting License for Bacula Documentation

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Smith
"Kern Sibbald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kern's main concern (correct me if I'm wrong, Kern) is that he doesn't want someone to be able to publish and sell paper versions of the manual. Yes, this is correct, but with the nuance, that I would be very happy

Re: MIDI file dual-licensed (GPL + Creative Commons) ok?

2006-05-14 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 13 May 2006 15:03:19 +0200 Uwe Hermann wrote: If you choose to separate the music from the game without using it in other software, the GNU General Public License is likely not to provide the level of protecti

Re: Would cxxtools need an exception for libssl too?

2006-05-12 Thread Joe Smith
"Kari Pahula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've an ITP, #366834, on a library called cxxtools (which already created a bit of controversy on -devel). The reason I'm packaging cxxtools is because tntnet (ITP #361010) uses it. Both are licensed under GPLv2 or la

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Is canoo webtest DFSG compliant

2006-05-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Fred Maranhão" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm looking for a functional test tool for web applications to use in my workplace. I'm interested in software that works both in gnu and windows. One of the canditates is canoo webtest (http://webtest.canoo.com/webtest/manual/WebTest

[Slightly OT] Grant of right to litigate copyright infringment

2006-04-30 Thread Joe Smith
It would be useful to be able to licence the right to litigate cases of copyright infringement. Many non-profit organisations request copyright assignment from contributers. One of the more common reasons is because the organisation would have trouble defending the work (i.e. litigating against

Re: left-over non-free license file in .orig tarball

2006-04-29 Thread Joe Smith
"Frank Gevaerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, When I packaged foobillard 3.0a, I correctly removed the included non-free larabie ttf fonts, but I accidentally forgot to remove the associated README.FONTS file, which contains the license for these fonts. Is th

Re: Tremulous packages

2006-04-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The license you quoted is definitely non-free, because of the many restrictions it contains: it fails DFSG#1 and DFSG#3, I would say. You should try contacting the copyright holders (AT&T, Christopher W. Fraser, and

Re: Tremulous packages

2006-04-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A simple clarification from the copyright holders that they will not be enforcing any of the problematic clauses, along with the promise to upgrade to the newer versions of CC when possible should qualify them as f

Re: Tremulous packages

2006-04-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Heretik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, I ITP Tremulous for Debian (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363581) and have some license concerns. I have one source package and three binary packages : tremulous, tremulous-data and tremulous-ser

Re: Is distribution of the maxdb-doc package a GPL violation?

2006-04-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Frank Küster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I've been asked by the debian release team to look into this bug and see what can be done to have a successful resolution... The situation seems to be this one: 1) maxd

Re: License Licenses (again)....

2006-04-23 Thread Joe Smith
"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Javier wrote: The last proposed licensed I sent is *not* a "new" license. It is simply this license: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-doc-license.html ... The Debian Documentation License Copyright 1997-

Re: Panda3d Public License?

2006-03-25 Thread Joe Smith
"Arc Riley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone looked at Disney's "Panda3d Public License Version 2.0"? http://www.panda3d.org/license.php Clause 4 seems worrysome (requires sending signifigant changes to Disney). Other parts seem redundant with copyright

Re: compartibility of license of Wild Magic library with the Debian main and non-free repositories

2006-03-21 Thread Joe Smith
"Dominik Margraf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I have come across with the Wild Magic library, which has its own license and has not been debianized to date. Here is the link to the license agreement: http://www.geometrictools.com/License/WildMagic3Licen

Re: [IBPP-DISCUSS] IBPP license 1.0

2006-03-19 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that's the one. There are several often called MIT. Someone has moved the copy on X.org to which http://www.fr.debian.org/legal/licenses/ links - has anyone a new URL besides the failed open source initiative, please

Re: [IBPP-DISCUSS] IBPP license 1.0

2006-03-19 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] The MIT License (in case there would be multiple versions, I'm =20 referring to this one: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-=20 license.html) is indeed very close to the wishes of the IBPP authors. =20= I thin

Re: Non-free files in Emacs

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Smith
"Jérôme Marant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The following files have already been identified as offending: etc/{CENSORSHIP,copying.paper,INTERVIEW,LINUX-GNU,THE-GNU-PROJECT,WHY-FREE} Following are are nonfree documents found in cygwin's Emacs disto besides wha

Re: The compliance of the licences of OpenCascade and WildMagic libraries to the GPL requirements of Debian

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Smith
Wildmagic: The license *might* be free. It is certainly gpl-incompatable. (c) The Software may be used, edited, modified, copied, and distributed by you for commercial products provided that such products are not intended to wrap The Software solely for the purposes of selling it as if it were

Re: The compliance of the licences of OpenCascade and WildMagic libraries to the GPL requirements of Debian

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Smith
Dominik Margraf wrote: http://www.opencascade.org/occ/license/ TEXT: Public license In short, Open CASCADE Technology Public License is LGPL-like with certain differences. You are permitted to use Open CASCADE Technology within commercial environments and you are obliged to acknowledge its

Re: The compliance of the licences of OpenCascade and WildMagic libraries to the GPL requirements of Debian

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Smith
Dominik Margraf wrote: and Wild Magic http://www.geometrictools.com/License/WildMagic3License.pdf Text: Softwaree License Agreement for the Wild Magic (Version 3) Library Version 1.0c, April 29, 2005 This Software License Agreement is a legal agreement between Geometric Tools, Inc., a Nor

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-14 Thread Joe Smith
""Claus Färber"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two assumptions here that are wrong: . US residents can only be sued in US courts. . US courts can only decide on US copyright law. Speaking of which, are there any cases in which a US court has made a

Re: Is the GUST-FONT-NOSOURCE-LICENSE free?

2006-03-14 Thread Joe Smith
"Frank Küster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Except for the source issue. The concrete example, as you might have guessed, are the ANTP fonts, which are available as PostScript Type1, TrueType and OpenType fonts. I have heard a talk of the author, Janusz Nowac

Re: Academic Free License 1.1

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Smith
"Joey Hess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Academic Free License 2.1 has been discussed here before and is IIRC non-free, how about version 1.1? License follows: [Snip] Grant of License. Licensor hereby grants to any person obtaining a copy of the Original Work (

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-08 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and that was a clearly DFSG-free choice. I'm personally very happy with that choice and feel it's a perfectly adequate license for videos. True that does seem strange. As a sidenote, the URL you quoted points to th

Re: [Portaudio] Re: portaudio in Debian, license updates?

2006-03-05 Thread Joe Smith
"Junichi Uekawa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The web page (http://www.portaudio.com/license.html) has the following additional clauses; which should be included in Debian package to clarify: Plain English Interpretation of the License The following is a plain En

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-04 Thread Joe Smith
It seems the only good way to handle this is to get upsteam to change fonts or convince the font author to make the font availale under a free licence. Considering the particluar fonts used, that is quite unlikely. Font copyrights are a royal pain. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-14 Thread Joe Smith
"Adam McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:42:23PM -0500, Joe Smith wrote: I'm not one for entering flamewars, but I must ask what is freedom if not convience? dict is both free AND convenient! n

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Smith
"Craig Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:01:24AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > why are you obsessing with a convenience issue and pretending that > it has ANY BEARING AT ALL on freedom issues? it doesn't. Err, because I

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-16 Thread Joe Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] d) They may require that the work contain functioning facilities that allow users to immediately obtain copies of its Complete Corresponding Source Code. *** Although this may be a Free requirement -- and I believe it should be cons

Re: contrib or main?

2005-12-07 Thread Joe Smith
"Josselin Mouette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't packages that require something outside the archive, be it free or not, be in contrib? No. An emulator does not require a game. It is just not particularly useful without one. Are you saying that a u

Re: TiffIO license agreement

2005-11-30 Thread Joe Smith
"Oleksandr Moskalenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The License is CeCILL. Two important clauses: Agreement: means this Licensing Agreement, and any or all of its subsequent versions. Any or all Software distributed under a given version of the Agreement may

Re: Proposed license for IETF Contributions

2005-11-21 Thread Joe Smith
"Simon Josefsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I think you are thinking of "i.e." here. "e.g." means more or less "for example". Doh! Misread that. You are ri

Re: Releasing SW under GPL

2005-11-20 Thread Joe Smith
"Svante Signell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 14:05 -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Justin Pryzby wrote: > Some argue > that *.h, at least for libraries, have no creative content, or are > only API, and thus not copyrightable, but it can't h

Re: Proposed license for IETF Contributions

2005-11-20 Thread Joe Smith
"Simon Josefsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all. I have discussed an issue with IETF's copying conditions on debian-devel before, and got several supporters. My effort to change the copying conditions in IETF has resulted in an updated version of my propos

Re: Intel modem driver licence

2005-11-15 Thread Joe Smith
"Marcus Better" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. When downloading the driver from http://www.intel.com/design/modems/support/drivers.htm (which by the way is not the only way to do it), one needs to accept a click-through licence agreement, which is different fr

Re: Custom license question (Glk libraries)

2005-11-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Niko Tyni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fine. So, as I understand, the only possible problem is documentation, since the license doesn't explicitly give permission to modify it or distribute modified versions. It's only speaking of 'the code'. All the documentat

Re: Custom license question (Glk libraries)

2005-11-06 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think this is trying to be a shorter licence with the same effect as the Artistic - you may edit it, but must change the name. I'd say it follows the DFSG (integrity of source allows name changes), but I have one doubt: if

Re: Custom license question (Glk libraries)

2005-11-05 Thread Joe Smith
"Niko Tyni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] http://www.eblong.com/zarf/glk/ Ah. Zarf. Quite a fascinating fellow. :) The source code in this package is copyright 1998-9 by Andrew Plotkin. You may copy and distribute it freely, by any means and under any condi

Re: Permission for using the 'Debian' name in a game

2005-10-24 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No. Debian really would prefer that the logo and name never be used in a case needing a trademark licence. [...] Why do you think that? Consider th

Re: Permission for using the 'Debian' name in a game

2005-10-23 Thread Joe Smith
Or you can get explicit permission from Debian. :-) Debian would probably require that you include a bit explaining what Debian really is and how to get it, in exchange for using the trademark. No. Debian really would prefer that the logo and name never be used in a case needing a trademark

Re: MySQL only useable for GPL clients?

2005-10-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Måns Rullgård" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Koegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The newer MySQL client libraries are GPL (with the FLOSS exception), older versions were LGPL. At http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html MySQL has put a

Re: "VIGRA Artistic License" changes

2005-10-08 Thread Joe Smith
"Florent Bayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ullrich Koethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Would the suggested changes satisfy the Debian folks? Another option would be to place VIGRA under either the artistic license (in its current version) and the GPL, at the disc

Re: Legal status of short, perhaps uncopyrightable program (fwd)

2005-10-07 Thread Joe Smith
"Lionel Elie Mamane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:12:37AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are some murmurings on the Web (e.g., http://www.spatula.net/software/sex/ , http://packages.gentoo.org/eb

Re: New BitTorrent License Preview

2005-10-05 Thread Joe Smith
"Jacobo Tarrio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From 4.g.: "For the avoidance of doubt, to the extent your executable version of a Licensed Product does not contain your or another Contributor?s material Modifications or is otherwise not a material Derivative Wor

Re: New BitTorrent License Preview

2005-10-05 Thread Joe Smith
Developer or such Contributor as a result of >> warranty, support, indemnity or liability terms You >> offer. Against which M. J. Ray makes a fairly convincing argument in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], which i have included below for reference: "J

Re: Is "VIGRA Artistic License" licence free and GPL-compatible ?

2005-09-28 Thread Joe Smith
Wait: "Freely Available" *is* defined at the beginning of the license: | "Freely Available" means that no fee is charged for the item. It | also means that recipients of the item may redistribute it under | the same conditions they received it. Whoops. I missed that. It seems that, if I wa

Re: Linux Documentation Project License (LDPL) v2.0

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
e. Take Linus, for example, had he published Linux under a pseudonym then that psuedonym may likely be better for identifying him then his real name. It is very hard to draw the line. How does a legal name identify somebody better than a psdeuonym? For example I'm writting this under the

Re: General Copyright Questions

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
"João Pinheiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess is the book covers are fair use, as they are required to allow consumers to identify the book. Besides, few people in their right mind would try to sue Amazon over a scanned verseion of the cover. After al

Re: Is "VIGRA Artistic License" licence free and GPL-compatible ?

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
However, this one forces modified works to be in the Public Domain, which is nowhere near the terms of the original work. Since this is derived from Artisic, it is assumed freely available means the same as it does there, which includes public domain, or posting the source publicly. The key is

Re: Is "VIGRA Artistic License" licence free and GPL-compatible ?

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Florent Bayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To make this easy, perhaps upstream can move to the clarified artistic licence. This seems to be about equivelent to the intent of the current licence, and is gpl-compatible according to the FSF. If it is Gpl-compat

Re: Is "VIGRA Artistic License" licence free and GPL-compatible ?

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Humberto Massa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 26/09/2005 13:30 : wrote Florent Bayle : Le Lundi 26 Septembre 2005 17:21, Humberto Massa a écrit : [...] And it's not GPL-compatible at all. How so? The only thing that seems to be a problem to me is this line:

Re: Tux image copyright license?

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
stament makes it quite clear that that is allowed. s/stament/statement/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, created by the gimp. s/by/using/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tux image copyright license?

2005-09-25 Thread Joe Smith
My questions are: * does this suffice as a DFSG-free license? it seems that there's no explicit permission to distribute (even if I suppose Larry meant to give such a permission...) The word use in relation to images implies distribution IMHO. For example if I 'use' Tux in a pamplet, i am most

Re: Linux Documentation Project License (LDPL) v2.0

2005-09-25 Thread Joe Smith
"Henning Makholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All identifiers have scope; if the license doesn't specify, there's no reason to think you can't use an identifier whose scope is limited to your involvement in the pro

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-20 Thread Joe Smith
- Original Message - From: "MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is hard to convict somebody for violating a law that they honestly have no reason to belive they might have violated. [...] Never heard the expression "ignorance is not a defence"? One would still be found guilty, but penaltie

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
"Michael Poole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This analogy between software and hard copies is deeply flawed. Under 17 USC 117(a), modificaton of a program is only permitted as an essential step in the utilization of the program. Under 17 USC 117(b), you need a

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
This analogy between software and hard copies is deeply flawed. Under 17 USC 117(a), modificaton of a program is only permitted as an essential step in the utilization of the program. Certainly if a program fails to do what you desire, changing it is esential for use of the program to do as

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] It has long been held that private copying is not covered by copyright. (Think: making a cassette tape from a cd). Maybe you've just worde

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
You are confusing limited fair use rights (which only exist in some jurisdictions) with substantial rights to copy and modify a work. WelltThat may be true, but in the US one cannot commit copyright infringment by simply modifying a tangible copy of a work, only by copying it. (After all, if

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Smith
"Steve Langasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So this license prohibits private modifications. Based on what I see, this was intended to be expat or BSD-like, except requiring that the source be available on distribution. This is somewhat more like the MPL. It

Re: [debian-ntp] Bug#328200: Problems with ntp

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
"Matthew Garrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The file util/ansi2knr.c is also GPL. I'm pretty sure it's unused, but an easy reference in debian/copyright would cover it. This may be a problem if it is used, as: Tha

Re: [debian-ntp] Bug#328200: Problems with ntp

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
The UCB advertising clause has been rescinded by the copyright owner. See this authorization. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change The advertising clause is no longer required and is deleted. With all of the usual cautions about IANAL I believe it is enough to delete

Re: Warzone data file

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
Using the words 'This source code' rather than 'the source code' implies the statement aplies to both the source and the data, which are often though of together by programmers. I'm pretty sure that the GPL was intended to cover the whole thing. Therefore if you are unable to ask for clarifica

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