Against DRM 1.0

2006-04-09 Thread Max Brown
What about "Against DRM 1.0" (a license for art works)? http://www.freecreations.org/Against_DRM.html It's good for Debian?? Max Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.

Re: Against DRM 1.0

2006-04-09 Thread Max Brown
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so it is not clear which legal effect an assertion that "[the] license is incompatible with it" has. Never legal effect - imho - because the license is inapplicable: licensor cannot apply the license to his work.What the

Re: Against DRM 1.0

2006-04-10 Thread Max Brown
Bad solution: in this way the license is compatible only with itself. However, artworks are different from functional works: the concept of derivative work is not the same (it is not necessary to specify "in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof", because a

Re: Against DRM 1.0

2006-04-11 Thread Max Brown
Max Brown wrote: Bad solution: in this way the license is compatible only with itself. Actually, it's not. It's compatible with itself, and any license which grants the same rights and only a subset of the restrictions. For example, MIT, or zlib.I don't understand your reasoning."You must

Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-19 Thread Max Brown
This is very interesting: http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html "You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work with any technological measures that control access or use of the Work in a manner inconsistent with the terms of this

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-19 Thread Max Brown
Very fine dissertation but... Evan, do you know that "Against DRM 2.0" does not treat software?? :-) ROFTL And why you don't speak about related rights? unnecessary license... :-) MaxEvan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There are many platforms that _require_ DRM -- notably Sony

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-20 Thread Max Brown
, but...Max, did you know that Debian requires *everything*, not justsoftware, to be DFSG-free? Not that it's particularly relevant sincethere isn't a huge amount under the Against DRM license, but...On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote: Very fine dissertation but... Evan, do you know that "Against DR

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-20 Thread Max Brown
h free and non-free works on Debian. We will never make thesystem require the use of a non-free component."On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote: The license does not treat software: you cannot value the license on the basis of Debian Free Software Guidelines. ;-) However, where can I read that Debian r

Re: Freeness of anti-DRM (was: Re: Against DRM 2.0)

2006-05-20 Thread Max Brown
Good work Henri! ;-) I think that an anti-DRM clause (concerning granted rights) can defend the freedom. See "Free Content Definition" (Mako Hill and other people are working on it): http://freedomdefined.org/Definition Max Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-21 Thread Max Brown
ant rights). So you can logically value free music through a free content definition. DFSG speak only about software, software and software. Max Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote: 1. Ok: how? I use "Yahoo! Mail".Found on http://expita.com/nomime.ht

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-21 Thread Max Brown
Ok, you don't know related rights. http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/about_collective_mngt.html#P31_2900 Related rights are the rights that belong to the performers, the producers of phonograms and broadcasting organizations in relation to their performances, phonograms and broadcasts

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-21 Thread Max Brown
/06, Max Brown wrote: Ok, you don't know related rights. http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/about_collective_mngt.html#P31_2900 Related rights are the rights that belong to the performers, the producers of phonograms and broadcasting organizations in relation to their performances, phonograms

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/23, David Mattli wrote: There are two prevaling views of software which I have seen. The view that software is the opposite of hardware, anything which is in binary format and the view that software is executable code. The former view is the most inclusive and the one (in my

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/23, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry if that's butchery of a foreign language, but this list is usually in English. Ah ah! This is in english too (there are many universal juridical latin terms!): In copyright law this led to the distinction between the corpus mysticum (the work) and

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-24 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/24, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Max Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006/5/23, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry if that's butchery of a foreign language, but this list is usually in English. Ah ah! This is in english too (there are many universal juridical latin ter= ms!): Latin

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-28 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/28, Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good luck, Good luck, Evan, goood luck! Max