Re: POSSIVEL SPAM-- Re: Binary-only firmware covered by the GPL?

2004-03-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:44:32 -0300, Humberto Massa said: There is another fail in your reasons here: as I said before, it just _happens_ to happen that fw[] = {} *is* the source code. What we must decide is what to do in the cases where *we don't know*. After all, what happens is somebody

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 06 May 2004 16:36:43 +0200, Domenico Andreoli said: if linux kernel distributes itself such a derivative work why debian can't? What non-GPL derivative works ship with the kernel? Even having facilities to load *non-derivative* non-GPL microcode into adapters is frowned on

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 06 May 2004 16:56:23 -0300, Humberto Massa said: It's the same case as Windows NDIS drivers loading on linux. They were created in a different environment, and would exist as they are even if linux did not exist. Provided GPL'd glue code, you can load them in the linux kernel, and

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:49:15 EDT, Walter Landry said: The question is rarely what Debian needs to do, but rather what Debian promises that the users will be able to do. Suppose that someone wanted to use Reiser4 on a miniature burnable CD for elections. The mini-CD holds the person's vote,

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 10 May 2004 22:33:29 EDT, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think you're agreeing with me. I can't make it a simple red circle or green square. I have to spit out the credits _and_ the circle/square. No, what's happening is that the mkfs program is spitting out the credits,

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:03:11 PDT, Hans Reiser said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pondered the whole credits question for a bit last night, and I realized that (a) I could account for at least the last 75 'mkfs' commands I had caused to run, and (b) of those 75, exactly *one* did *not* have

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:57:01 PDT, Hans Reiser said: Random credits are the elegant answer. Displaying only the distro name at boot time is morally wrong. Would be nice - the RedHat/Fedora GUI installer already supports showing the current install status in one pane, and scrolling through a