Re: Distributor License for Java: External Commentary

2006-05-25 Thread Adam Warner
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 22:33 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:15:32 +1200 Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, [several comments] Some more press coverage: How Sun's Java got into Debian ([Front] Posted May 24, 2006 20:24 UTC (Wed) by corbet) http://lwn.net/Articles/184942

Distributor License for Java: External Commentary

2006-05-22 Thread Adam Warner
Hi all, Simon Phipps, Chief Open Source Officer at Sun Microsystems: JDK on GNU/Linux: Something Wonderful 16 May 2006 http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink?entry=jdk_on_gnu_linux_something Responds that it's OK to distribute along with GCJ, GNU/Classpath and so on - that was one of the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 21 May 2006 16:17:52 -0500, Raphael Hertzog wrote: If Sun doesn't fix the license (and I don't think it is our work to fix The license is good enough for Debian (ftpmasters took their decisions). There's no fix to require, but it would be good to continue working them to enhance

Re: Review needed: Gentium font re-released under the SIL Open Font License

2005-11-28 Thread Adam Warner
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 14:32 +, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Dear All, The Gentium font (http://scripts.sil.org/gentium) has been re-released under the SIL Open Font License (http://scripts.sil.org/OFL). This is excellent news as there are few free/open-source fonts that cover the Latin,

Re: dpANSI

2004-06-22 Thread Adam Warner
On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 03:56, Camm Maguire wrote: It would be nice for those in the know/responsible for Debian's legal understanding to put forth a consensus on this. Others have suggested the possible usefulness of contacting others on the committee. I have a call into one such person.

Re: dpANSI

2004-06-21 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 07:50, Camm Maguire wrote: Greetings! Can anyone comment on the DFSG status of the material at: ftp://parcftp.xerox.com/pub/cl ? Please cc: me directly. Hi Camm. This is an earlier answer from the X3J13 Project Editor, Kent M Pitman. It is as definitive as you can

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 01:25, Don Armstrong wrote: 5. Reciprocity. If You institute patent litigation against a Contributor with respect to a patent applicable to software (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit), then any patent licenses granted by that

Re: zlib license

2003-10-12 Thread Adam Warner
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:47, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: Hello. I've been thinking about packaging netPantzer (strategy game) but it depends on PhysicsFS which is absent in Debian archive (http://www.icculus.org/physfs/). So I'd like to package it too but this software has got

Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

2003-10-06 Thread Adam Warner
be exempted from being considered release critical for sarge by the release manager. This is expressed by tagging the report sarge-ignore; this should not be done without explicit authorisation from the release manager. Regards, Adam Warner

Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

2003-10-06 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 06:05, Adam Warner wrote: tag 212895 thanks Note that the sarge-ignore tag has now been removed. I located the correct syntax [tag 212895 - sarge-ignore] in a document referenced from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer, i.e. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

Re: Is the Nokia Open Source License DFSG compliant?

2003-08-31 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 19:54, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: I believe this license is DFSG compliant, Sections 3.1 and 3.2 are similar to some GPL sections. I wonder about section 3.6 as well. Thanks in advance for looking at this lengthy license. I see a problem. Nokia has explicitly excluded

Re: Is the Nokia Open Source License DFSG compliant?

2003-08-31 Thread Adam Warner
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 01:50, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Thanks for your analysis. I appreciate it, Adam. I'm hoping to package for Debian the Common Lisp wilbur-rdf library [http://wilbur-rdf.sourceforge.net]. Would you declare, then, that the Nokia license section 2.d3 violates the derived

Re: Is the Nokia Open Source License DFSG compliant?

2003-08-31 Thread Adam Warner
Someone may be able to locate the OSI discussion about the NOKOS (perhaps the issue was discussed and my interpretation is incorrect): http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3 This is the actual licence for the software Kevin described: http://wilbur-rdf.sourceforge.net/docs/LICENSE-NOKOS.html

Re: Is the Nokia Open Source License DFSG compliant?

2003-08-31 Thread Adam Warner
Eeek! The Nokia licence is similar to the Mozilla Public License 1.1 (not 1.0) which is why there is a dearth of specific commentary on the Nokia version. The MPL 1.0 states: 2.1. The Initial Developer Grant. The Initial Developer hereby grants You a world-wide, royalty-free,

Re: Re: Decision GFDL

2003-08-27 Thread Adam Warner
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:19, Joe Buck wrote: My role in this: I'm not a Debian developer, but I am a member of the GCC steering committee. Our manual is GFDL, and almost all of our developers are unhappy about it. We're running into legal issues with things like doxygen-generated libstdc++

Re: Decision GFDL

2003-08-26 Thread Adam Warner
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 06:48, Wouter Vanden Hove wrote: Hi, Where can I find the actual Debian-decision on the GNU Free Documentation License? Wouter, it is my understanding that Debian interprets the Social Contract and the Free Software Guidelines based upon consensus that develops upon

Re: Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-20 Thread Adam Warner
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:00, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I believe this comment is a mischaracterisation of the consensus that has developed on this list. Recently explained by Nathanael Nerode on the glibc mailing list:

Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-19 Thread Adam Warner
Hi all, [message BCCed to aj] I wanted you all to be aware how Sarge is treating Documentation and the DFSG: http://people.debian.org/~ajt/sarge_rc_policy.txt Documentation in main and contrib must be freely distributable, and wherever possible should be under a DFSG-free license. This

Re: Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-19 Thread Adam Warner
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 13:12, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, [message BCCed to aj] I wanted you all to be aware how Sarge is treating Documentation and the DFSG: http://people.debian.org/~ajt

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-10 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 16:32, Matthew Garrett wrote: Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: There are cases, when we can easely distinguish, is it documentation or program. For example, emacs info files are definitely documentation. And what if a user wishes to link documentation into code? Do you

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 21:23, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeu 07/08/2003 à 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Josselin Mouette wrote: In case anybody's interested, I've just commited the GPLv2 'LICENSE' into CVS, to avoid further useless arguments. Could you please explain how the

Re: APSL 2.0

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 22:23, Lynn Winebarger wrote: Adam Warner wrote: What was a substantial freedom as part of GNU philosophy--the freedom to make modifications and use them privately in your own work or play, without even mentioning that they exist--is now only useful to hermits

Re: APSL 2.0

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 22:51, MJ Ray wrote: Adam Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a mere consequence: If Debian is persuaded that the APSL 2.0 is DFSG-free then a subsequent revision of the GPL with the addition of a viral electronic service clause would also be DFSG-free

Re: APSL 2.0

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 02:19, MJ Ray wrote: Adam Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not prepared to answer these questions at this time. If I had to make a snap decision it would be for the status quo that licensing obligations apply upon source code distribution. I'm puzzled

Re: APSL 2.0

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 03:10, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: ... I think this era isn't very different from that of 15 years ago. RMS, and the FSF, are spooked by the success of web service providers. They didn't seem very upset by modems, remote terminals, and timesharing systems, though. I think

Re: Is the Apache Software License DFSG-compliant?

2003-08-07 Thread Adam Warner
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 13:51, Pierre THIERRY wrote: I just looked at the license for some Apache software, like Xalan, Xerces of FOP. I noticed that it forbids the use of their name in derived work without written permission. IIUC, it is absolutely not DFSG-compliant, is it? It means that

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Warner
It has been pointed out on debian-devel that your mplayer package includes DVD Content Scrambling System decoding!: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg01827.html (Refer libmpdvdkit2/*css*) I hope you understand how serious this is and how many problems you would have

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Warner
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 01:41, A Mennucc1 wrote: sorry last time there was a discussion, it was mainly on licenses and copyrights, and I was so focused on them that I didn't think of the CSS code I will prepare and test an 'mplayer' without the above code (a la xine) and come back soon

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-23 Thread Adam Warner
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 00:49, A Mennucc1 wrote: first of all, thanks a lot for the careful reading I will incorporate all change that you mention On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:03:56AM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: * Could you rewrite this paragraph in a way that is less disparaging

Re: GFDL and man pages

2003-07-14 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:02, Walter Landry wrote: This is a summary of what you have to do. The detailed requirements are in section 4 of the GFDL. Note that this all has to be _in_ the manpage. This may or may not make the manpage useless. You also have to include the Transparent version

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-14 Thread Adam Warner
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 06:15, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:15:26AM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personally have advocated a fifth freedom: 5) The freedom to retain privacy in one's person, effects, and data,

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-14 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 06:05, Dylan Thurston wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Warner wrote: Branden, perhaps the term information disclosure would better suit you/us than privacy? That is we propose a DFSG-free licence cannot mandate information disclosure of anything

Re: Incomplete licence - what to do?

2003-05-29 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Artur R. Czechowski, Hello I would like to package a php4-rrdtool from wnpp[1]. I noticed that this software has IMO incomplete licence. Full README file is available at: http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/pub/contrib/php4-rrdtool-1.03.txt Interesting part about

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-26 Thread Adam Warner
Oops, now posting my reply to the list as I originally intended... On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 18:04, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:49:07PM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: Frankly this claim that it is always better to keep the manual separate--as if it is always better to keep

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-24 Thread Adam Warner
of documentation and software engineering in order to push the mandatory inclusion of your political texts. Regards, Adam Warner

Re: Is this license DFSG-free?

2003-05-20 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Branden Robinson, On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 03:22:27AM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:22:31PM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: There is a very simple rule of thumb you haven't grokked: If you haven't been granted the permission to do something covered by copyright law

Re: [Resolution of] Re: Maxima: Difficult US export restriction issue

2003-05-20 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 19:42, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 01:14:44PM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: Dave Turner, the FSF's ``GPL Compliance Engineer'' suggests including the DOE text in the SAME FILE as the GPL will be sufficient to honour the DOE's requirement while also

Re: Is this license DFSG-free, part 2 - Word from upstream

2003-05-20 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Nicolas Kratz, Hi again. *groan* I have sent upstream a mail, explaining the nonfreeness of the software and suggesting to use GPL, BSD or Artistic License. The original answer is below. It translates to: Professor phoned author, and they say: It's OK to build on top of our work. Regard

Re: new-maintainer vs patents.

2003-05-19 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Dariush Pietrzak, Hello, I've been asked to provide the list of patents that my package may/may not be possibly infriging on. What package? By whom? As you can imagine this task is way beyond my capabilities, so what should one do with this? Are all package maintainers required to do

[Resolution of] Re: Maxima: Difficult US export restriction issue

2003-05-19 Thread Adam Warner
Good news everyone, Dave Turner, the FSF's ``GPL Compliance Engineer'' suggests including the DOE text in the SAME FILE as the GPL will be sufficient to honour the DOE's requirement while also not modifying the GPL. The text should note that it is not part of the licence. Below is my suggested

Maxima: Difficult US export restriction issue

2003-05-17 Thread Adam Warner
by a software license. I am also mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if they would like to provide some input. I hope follow ups will be made to the Debian legal mailing list. Regards, Adam Warner

Re: Maxima: Difficult US export restriction issue

2003-05-17 Thread Adam Warner
(Sorry if this is a dupe. The news.gmane.org news-to-email gateway may be having problems so I've replied in the traditional way from my email client) Hi Sam Hartman, Is there some reason you cannot include that paragraph in the text that invokes the GPL in every source file? Would that not

Re: Is this license DFSG-free?

2003-05-16 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Nicolas Kratz, This is freeware; it is acutely non-free (why do you even have to ask?). I rather ask and take the ridicule, if any, than brooding over legal implications I'm not very likely to understand. I do have severe trouble to parse legalese and licenses, maybe I'm just a few

Re: query from Georg Greve of GNU about Debian's opinion of the FDL

2003-05-09 Thread Adam Warner
Hello James Miller, I think I had compiled a user friendly index comparing some various jurisdictions a couple years ago I could dig up if it's useful to you guys. I have also been following this discussion with interest. I'm attempting to understand the copyright laws of the various

Re: Question on wxWindows packages

2003-05-03 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Roberto Sanchez, I came across the following while reading the wxWindows documentation (from the wxwin2.4-doc package): We also acknowledge the author of XFIG, the excellent Unix drawing tool, from the source of which we have borrowed some spline drawing code. His copyright is included

Re: query from Georg Greve of GNU about Debian's opinion of the FDL

2003-04-14 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Georg C. F. Greve, As to the question whether or not software and documentation should be treated alike, I'd like to say that I am very much in favor of a more differentiated approach. Mixing things that are in truth very different is one of the worst effects of the intellectual

Justified in removing copyright notices?

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Warner
Hi all, In 1986/87 John Peterson (now of Haskell fame) wrote a Lisp to Postscript compiler called PLisp. In 1992 he packaged and distributed it after posting this 7 April message to comp.lang.lisp and comp.lang.postscript (7 April is in the message ID. GMT time was 6 April):

Re: Justified in removing copyright notices?

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Warner
I wrote: The Lisp files were copied to create the tarball that same day, 7 April 1992. 17 of those files contain this copyright notice: ;;; Copyright (c) 1987 John Peterson ;;; Permission is given to freely modify and distribute this code ;;; so long as this copyright notice is

Re: OSD DFSG - different purposes

2003-01-28 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Russell Nelson, Glenn Maynard writes: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200207/msg00448.html Thanks. Why not change the DFSG? There have been several good reasons explained for leaving the DFSG as a set of human guidelines, rather than a word-strict