Re: no need to keep non-copylefted files that way in a copylefted project. (was Re: FRR package in Debian violates the GPL licence)

2019-03-20 Thread Andrej Shadura
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 13:10, Paul Jakma  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Andrej Shadura wrote:
>
> > Apparently they’re not qualified in software licenses and copyrights.
> > Sorry I have to say that.
>
> You're a software engineer, with no legal qualifications or experience
> listed in your LinkedIn. They are qualified, practicing solicitors.

I do not have a LinkedIn account.

> If all you're going to do is inject reason-free arguments to your own
> authority, then I'll stick with their authority.

Reasoned argument have already been given to you multiple times by
many people, which you have chosen to ignore.

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  Andrej



Re: FRR package in Debian violates the GPL licence

2019-03-16 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi Paul,

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 14:19, Paul Jakma  wrote:
> It is - I am advised - not permitted by the GPL and infringing of my
> copyright in thise code-base, and also incitement to commit copyright
> infringement. As such, the termination clause of the GPL became
> applicable to FRR.
>
> Use and distribution is unlicensed.

I’m afraid your understanding of how the GPL works is incorrect.

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  Andrej



Re: Hacking License

2018-12-04 Thread Andrej Shadura
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 01:34, Giacomo Tesio  wrote:
>
> Hi, I've just published a new version of the Hacking License that
> receipts some of the objections proposed on debian-legal and on
> copyleft-next.
>
> In particular, I have
> 1) removed requirement to change the logo (see [1] from Francesco Poli).
>That requirements was not there to protect the brand of the authors but
>to protect the users from being fooled to use a modified version
>instead of the original;

That still effectively forbids your software from being packaged.

> 2) left requirement to change the name, because the definition of "use"
>already allows the users to store a Derived Work in place of the Hack;

So if I want to patch a security vulnerability, I have to bikeshed a
name? Please no.

> 3) clarified the permissions granted to organizations, that can only copy
>and/or distribute the Hack (see [2] from Paul Jakma);
> 4) slighly improved the Preamble
>
> The canonical url is still at http://www.tesio.it/documents/HACK.txt
> (SHA256: 8d1892282d2335d5b9bc3f4656123bc18cbb2ce479def922a896a75005b3d738)
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2018/12/msg2.html
> [2] https://bit.ly/2BNJvkE
>
> I would really appreciate further feedbacks.

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Re: Bug#883731: audacious: Debian packaging has incorrect license

2018-10-23 Thread Andrej Shadura
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 03:51, Nicholas D Steeves  wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:50:56PM +0200, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> >
> >I was going to have a look but got distracted by writing kernel drivers
> >â** fascinating stuff :D
> >I will try and spend some time this week on this. If not, I'll post an
> >update here.
>
> Thank you Andrej!  Very much appreciated :-)  I hope this bug contains
> all the information you need.
>
> Yes, they really are, although I must confess the details are a bit
> above my head.  Kudos for getting to that level of proficiency!  By
> the way, assuming you're a member of a the Multimedia Team, and are
> interested in kernel drivers, are you the Debian guy to contact for
> audio interface driver issues (eg: model specific quirks) or wishlist
> "please support this new awesome interface or peripheral"? ;-)

Haha, I’m just a beginner — this is my first driver, and it’s not
related to multimedia (a driver to support a hardware random number
generator in U2F Zero).
So far this is my fourth patch to the Linux kernel; nevertheless, it’s
quite some fun to work with that and see how things work (or not — and
crash your system if you’re not careful *or* if you don’t run tests in
a qemu).

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  Andrej



Re: Bug#883731: audacious: Debian packaging has incorrect license

2018-10-22 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi,

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, 20:15 Nicholas D Steeves,  wrote:

> Update
>
> Sorry for my deplorable memory and lack of organisation wrt this bug;
> I committed some initial work and then forgot about it.  Given my work
> schedule for Oct and Nov it is unlikely that I will be able to prevent
> the scheduled autoremoval.  If someone else would like to fix it asap
> please go ahead.  Otherwise I anticipate being able to find the time
> to work on this after the 28th of Nov.
>
> I'll go ahead and file a bug asking for confirmation of the license
> for contributors to debian/*, because this information is not
> contained in old-style copyright format and I'm only familiar with
> machine readable copyright format 1.0
>

I was going to have a look but got distracted by writing kernel drivers —
fascinating stuff :D

I will try and spend some time this week on this. If not, I'll post an
update here.

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  Andrej

>


Re: DFSG-compatibility of a overly short license [tensorflow dependency]

2018-08-20 Thread Andrej Shadura
On 20 August 2018 at 08:24, Andrej Shadura  wrote:
> On 20 August 2018 at 03:24, Gunnar Wolf  wrote:
>> Lumin dijo [Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 01:07:54PM +]:
>>> Hi debian-legal,
>>>
>>> The license for the last libtensorflow.so dependency is very confusing
>>> because it looks quite incomplete, or exetremely overly simplified.
>>>
>>> > https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/third_party/fft2d/LICENSE
>>> >
>>> > Copyright(C) 1997,2001 Takuya OOURA (email: oo...@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp).
>>> > You may use, copy, modify this code for any purpose and
>>> > without fee. You may distribute this ORIGINAL package.
>>>
>>> Is this a free software license? Is it DFSG-compatible?
>>> It doesn't tell me any detail and looks incomplete.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Almost, I would say, but IMO most definitively not.
>>
>> It allows people to modify the code, but NOT distribute the
>> modifications (there is emphasis in ORIGINAL).
>
> I don’t think that’s the intention, and it is probably covered by
> "modify <…> for any purpose" (e.g. modify for the purpose of further
> redistribution).

The homepage of the project says (www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~ooura/fft.html):

> You may use, copy, modify and distribute this code for any
> purpose (include commercial use) and without fee. Please
> refer to this package when you modify this code.

In my opinion it is quite clear it is not disallowing redistributing
modifications.

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Re: DFSG-compatibility of a overly short license [tensorflow dependency]

2018-08-20 Thread Andrej Shadura
On 20 August 2018 at 03:24, Gunnar Wolf  wrote:
> Lumin dijo [Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 01:07:54PM +]:
>> Hi debian-legal,
>>
>> The license for the last libtensorflow.so dependency is very confusing
>> because it looks quite incomplete, or exetremely overly simplified.
>>
>> > https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/third_party/fft2d/LICENSE
>> >
>> > Copyright(C) 1997,2001 Takuya OOURA (email: oo...@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp).
>> > You may use, copy, modify this code for any purpose and
>> > without fee. You may distribute this ORIGINAL package.
>>
>> Is this a free software license? Is it DFSG-compatible?
>> It doesn't tell me any detail and looks incomplete.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> Almost, I would say, but IMO most definitively not.
>
> It allows people to modify the code, but NOT distribute the
> modifications (there is emphasis in ORIGINAL).

I don’t think that’s the intention, and it is probably covered by
"modify <…> for any purpose" (e.g. modify for the purpose of further
redistribution).

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  Andrej