to be a discrimination against a field of
endeavour? Would a simple 'Yeah, we meant license-as-in-certification'
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Once you've downloaded the source, another method that would work would
be to put all the source packages somewhere in the disk image. Then
anyone can distribute the disk image without accidentally voiding their GPL.
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authorship credit.
and 2.0 states
| at a minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable
| authorship credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as
| such other comparable authorship credit.
I wonder if this might just be a rewording oversight?
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permission, and then drawing your
attention to something that would be the case with or without the license.
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The GPL uses this language because it is intended to apply not only to
derivative works, but also to works that aren't derivative but do
contain the work.
Yeah, right.
The intent is that if you somehow
Max Brown wrote:
The license is copyleft... :-) It's a clear license, imho.
If you assume that the renunciation to esclusive[sic] exsercise[sic] of
rights referred to in the articles 4 and 5 implies a compulsion to
grant rights. I don't think it does, and if it's supposed to, there are
the source in the same place, it's saying that by offering your
source in the same place, you can discharge your source obligation under
3a instead of 3b; this is why Debian does not have to keep source
archives available for three years.
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probably going to have to write your own license
(bearing in mind that it will not be compatible with the GPL's 'You may
not impose any further restrictions').
* Unless have an arrangement with this third-party to host the source
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(Tangentially, could someone please clarify this: to pass on the work
dual-licensed, do you need to comply with both licenses, or does the
copyright statement attached to the work that you've legitimately
distributed under
is supposed to be
doing: preserving the freedom to modify. This would be curtailed if to
modify a book you first had to scan and OCR it.
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thinking it was public-domained when the author posted
the full source to usenet? Depending on the country it was posted from,
might there be some form of implied license, similar to what happens to
the copyrighted text of a mailing list post?
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access to the source directly from the
webserver, and offering access to an identical copy of the source on a
different server should be treated differently by the GPL.
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it in
paint, when really you've got a multi-layer photoshop file you don't
want to share), but so do most things pertaining to free software:
unless committed on a vast scale, most license violations go uncontested.
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have the option of exercising additional rights, but no
rights taken away.
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JPL's permission to copy them.
[1] - http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#piu
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split between websites that do this and websites that roll it
up into one credit at the bottom.
If the clause were demanding that attribution go right next to the use
of the image, this would be non-free, right?
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them permission to use one, the other, or both, at their option.
you can ignore this bit
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[2] - http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/EULA/firefox-en.html
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of it being on the license page, when (not being
part of the license) it is not binding to either the licensor or the
licensee?
3) why are so many people copying them into their copyright notices?
[1] - http://www.moxon.net/downloads/pdfs/travels_in_burkina_faso.pdf
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that it is probably ok to simply change the message in
the Debian version to that of the new version.
[1] -
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, that this paragraph is made a part of the
license, immutable without the consent of all of the copyright owners?
Meaning that, should the law change, the license won't?
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of PHP? Rather than being a
trademark claim, is it not the case that this is an attempt to achieve
trademark-like behaviour with copyright law?
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the truthful use of a trademark (for instance, 'Debian's
modified version of PHP' would not infringe trademark law, despite 'PHP'
being in the name).
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, close coupling would suggest that the works are derived
from each other, unless they were both implementing some kind of
third-party API, such as J2SE, Directshow, etc.
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that there are more linking relationships of this kind
(.Net/Mono seems ripe for this kind of thing to occur), large chunks of
Debian may be undistributable.
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written against?
Does this change if the program is aggregated with W and Z, but not Y?
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to find an answer to
this question, and it seems relevant to the debate: if it is truly the
case that an entity can lose the right to distribute forever, then the
Debian mirrors have already irrevocably lost the right to kaffe.
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originally written against?
Does this change if the program is aggregated with W and Z, but not Y?
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; that there are thousands of
them, which may have taken a lot of effort to gather, is immaterial).
It may be the case that the data could be plucked from the RFC and
freely distributed, albeit only in places that don't allow 'sweat of the
brow' copyrights.
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that combines two other works,
created without creative input?
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reading is correct), this is not a pressing problem,
until/unless Debian starts distributing code that was distributed by the
upstream after his infringing action?
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part of the source,
and if you don't provide the assembler source, the source is not complete.
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firmware, driver disabled.
* ACENIC firwmare, driver disabled.
* DGRS firmware, driver disabled.
* DAB firmware, driver disabled.
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examples of what could be done with the right to deal
in the Software without restriction?
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It is hard to be sure whether any given program that doesn't use ssl was
written against curl+ssl (and therefore explicitly permitting such
linkage), or against a curl without ssl (at best not implicitly
permitting such linkage, and at worst expressly forbidding it).
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into a program that is not a library.
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language. It doesn't matter to the operation of the linker which
language it's written in.
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copyright to restrict 'public performance' of
the program, instead relying on an EULA
(http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/5/12538ba0-3d24-4f00-aab1-dd9ff4aacfc9/en_client_eula.pdf).
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message, but I suspect many people didn't realise they were there.
Also, shut Brian up, and let me back to work on my packages. is, in my
opinion, a rather hostile phrase to use when opening a conversation.
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graphic as their logo, and register it as a trademark? Could they then
use their trademark to stop you using your free image? They wouldn't be
infringing your copyright because of your free license.
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suggest they
probably got them from the same place they got their 'movie trailers' from.
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break down, the bus company is contractually obligated to either
refund your money, or send another bud to take you to your destination.
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, the phone is not consideration, as it
your phone, not theirs. They are not actually giving you anything when
they return your phone).
[1] - I cite http://www.cisg.law.pace.edu/cisg/text/peclcomp29.html ,
'promises binding'
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thing to do.)).
[1] - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLTranslations
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type of program in Debian is held to.
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called InterBase or Interbase nor may the word InterBase appear in
their names without the prior written permission of Interbase.
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distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based
on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of
this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the
entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.
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, the difference between 'please do this' and 'you must do
this' is huge: 'please do this' clauses are requests, not conditions,
and do not form part of the license. Requests are not legally binding at
all; they are a courtesy to the author, not a condition for distributing
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grant permission to you to do any act with my work.,
and No warranty offered and no liability accepted., which seem the
same in intent as two-clause BSD (which is Free).
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not accept the GPL unless he wants to. If he
doesn't, he may still use the software, just not copy or modify it.
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[1] I.e.: if it does it is a bug.
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an
exception for, should the GPL turn out to be non-free.
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Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 07:29:10PM +0100, Lewis Jardine wrote:
Copyright FSF, Inc; available under the GPL with no warranty, 'show
license' for details, only when stdout is a tty, and a configuration
option that will eliminate it completely. Is that really so bad
=1Yma6-4cF-19%40gated-at.bofh.it
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(www.bigstorage.com) contributes to our general fund every
month, and has done so for quite a long time. - Is this really so bad?
Slippery slope...
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Hans Reiser wrote:
They often don't realize that I am
responsible for basic architectural features, like the idea of
aggregating small files together rather than always page aligning them,
Doesn't NTFS (invented in the early '90s) do this?
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as it was originally written for windows/dos, and has nothing to do with
the kernel.
Presumably this situation changes if the proprietary code implements
some interface peculiar to a.o or b.o, as it then becomes a derived work
of a.o or b.o .
Do I understand this correctly?
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intends some other license, which is often non-free.
GPL initially, followed by an amendment into 'GPL + rider' suggests that
the author fits into category b).
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a patent-encumbered standard is not allowed
in main, unless the owner of the patent/trademark promises not to sue
developers of free software. Fraunhofer has no problem with mp3 decoders
(so mpg321 is in main), but hasn't ruled out going after mp3 encoders
(so LAME isn't).
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to a tech question
here and there
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licenses_, _non-free
licenses_, and _licenses that don't allow redistribution_' to link to
definitions of the categories (rather than the list of licenses); maybe
others might also make the same mistake.
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the amendment was
The Right Thing, even though it may delay Sarge.
In my opinion, invoking the Social Contract is Debian's version of
Godwin's Law.
I'd say that it beats Godwin's Law, as the Social Contract is (at least
supposed to be :) relevant to the discussion at hand.
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in some situations
break DFSG #1, thus GFDL is in some situations non-free.
To be Free, a license must not be non-free in any situation, thus GFDL
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providing source, not
deployment without providing source.
The discussion of The Affero License in the debian-legal archives may be
relevant.
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can download just the bootsector image (not as a .sit)?
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If the code is as small and simple as described, clean-room
implementation should take about as much time as getting a reply from
Apple
The problem with clean-room implementations is not so much producing
them as debugging
to this particular piece of IP.
If you're going to ask apple for permission to reverse-engineer, you
might as well ask them if they're willing to license the boot block in a
DFSG Free manner.
It's worth a try, anyway.
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position?
speedtouch does this, and it is in main.
If it's not ok for kernel-source to do this, speedtouch probably needs
to be looked at as well.
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