a license exception that is easier for a
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it and redistribute it freely seems
like it does just that?
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This one time, at band camp, Måns Rullgård said:
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This one time, at band camp, Måns Rullgård said:
There is one thing about that license that strikes me as slightly odd.
Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose
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How to get a final / official verdict about it?
Ask ftp-master.
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defeating the GPL if P was a thin shim layer between L and OpenSSL,
but I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that for our default MTA.
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What do you think of that. It does not seem to be compatible with the
GPL and could even be non free.
A request is fine. A condition is not.
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it might be useful to get that clarified, I think the intent is
fairly clear.
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, as that could become tedious to maintain.
Take care,
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on those rather than
expending effort on promoting non-free alternatives.
Thanks for reading so far,
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, to
make it clear what the rest of the DFSG is about. If you find the
exemplars are close to failing your idea of what the DFSG means, then
your idea is wrong.
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under the DFSG, although they are discouraged for
obvious reasons. The fact that some revisionists dislike them doesn't
make them fodder for non-free.
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This is a showstopper.
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there.
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, although he doesn't
explicitly say so. I guess some one could argue that that might be a
problem, but I don't think so, given the tone of the rest of the
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simple counter
argument.
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. If it is not under
active enforcement, and is under a free license, there is no reason not
to have it in main.
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never contributed to in any manner?
Why would it be? And what reason do you have to think these bizarre
queries are related to the issue at hand?
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for distribution. My bet is that they are countable in
single digits. I leave it to you to research this, since it apparently
interests you.
If not, what are you arguing?
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This one time, at band camp, Walter Landry said:
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one time, at band camp, MJ Ray said:
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
The BCFG public license (below) seems pretty much like a standard BSD
+ advertising clause license. I can't quite
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Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Walter Landry said:
I just think that when a list is asked a question in it's capacity as
arbiters of licenses for Debian, it is unhelpful to the OP to respond
with an answer based on personal feelings that conflict with what
This one time, at band camp, Henning Makholm said:
Scripsit Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What the statement reduces to is:
licensee acknowledges that there are laws in some jursidictions,
and if you are in those jurisdictions and break those laws, there may
be consequences
Well
, but that's it.
Neither of these are freeness issues.
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This one time, at band camp, Henning Makholm said:
Scripsit Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This one time, at band camp, Henning Makholm said:
Why does the license say that it requires me to agree with something
if that is not what it means?
It doesn't; you're misunderstanding
This one time, at band camp, George Danchev said:
On Sunday 30 July 2006 00:01, Stephen Gran wrote:
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Lets refer back to the license for a little clarity, perhaps:
7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT OF GOODS AND/OR TECHNICAL DATA FROM THE
UNITED STATES MAY REQUIRE SOME FORM
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. Includes indicates a
subset, rather than an addition. The list of numbers 1 .. 4 includes 2.
It is a nonsense statement to say, the list 1 ..4, including 5.
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This one time, at band camp, George Danchev said:
On Monday 05 June 2006 13:28, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Jacobo Tarrio said:
El lunes, 5 de junio de 2006 a las 19:39:46 +1000, Andrew Donnellan
escribía:
But it doesn't say that - it says applicable laws
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this software as dfsg compatible?
Absolutely. It is a viral license, but that is the point, and Debian
considers the GPL to be free.
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be fine.
Take care,
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This one time, at band camp, Matthew Palmer said:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:25:54AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Matthew Palmer said:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:35:28PM +0200, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
THIS SOFTWARE IS NOT FAULT TOLERANT AND SHOULD
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Olive, this guy is just a troll. Feeding him just seems to make him
waste more of Debian's bandwidth and my spambox. My advice is to leave
him be.
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(charityware
and so forth spring to mind immediately).
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This one time, at band camp, Glenn Maynard said:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:21:36PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote:
I have just asked on -mentors, and been referred to you for this
question, so here I am. I am considering packaging a small (15K
compressed) utility that extracts data from video
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