Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-08-15 Thread Abigail
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:24:09AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:57:09PM -0400, Mark Jason Dominus wrote: I am the original author of the manual page in question. I am presently negotiating with CMP, who acquired the Perl Journal a few years ago, to obtain

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-08-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:57:09PM -0400, Mark Jason Dominus wrote: I am the original author of the manual page in question. I am presently negotiating with CMP, who acquired the Perl Journal a few years ago, to obtain complete and unambiguous

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-08-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 08:39:28AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: However, just to correct Branden, being GPL-imcompatible does not make the GFDL non-free. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that; I know it's not the case. A consequence of writing mail in the small hours, I guess.

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Jason Dominus
I am the original author of the manual page in question. I am presently negotiating with CMP, who acquired the Perl Journal a few years ago, to obtain complete and unambiguous copyright on the article. If I succeed, I will release the original article and 'perlreftut', the derived manpage,

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's already separated from perl into perl-doc. Then we cannot distribute it legally at all. I'm not totally certain about that, as one could argue that perl-doc is merely a segmentation of the entire perl

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:31:33PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:25:52AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: [snip] (I find your reading to have so little to do with DFSG#1 that I'm having difficulty figuring out where to start, so I'll leave that to others.) Well, obviously his

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-29 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 10:05:18PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Jakob Bohm wrote: This manpage (and a few others) are very important parts of the perl package documentation. Separating it from perl is a non-option from

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jakob Bohm [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 10:05:18PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Then we cannot distribute it legally at all. The requirement is as part of the Standard Version of Perl, or as part of its complete documentation, whether printed or otherwise. I stand

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Jakob Bohm wrote: This manpage (and a few others) are very important parts of the perl package documentation. Separating it from perl is a non-option from the perspective of users. It's already separated from perl into perl-doc. Furthermore, in this case, the information

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Jakob Bohm wrote: This manpage (and a few others) are very important parts of the perl package documentation. Separating it from perl is a non-option from the perspective of users. It's already separated from perl into

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-28 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:13:00AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:25:52AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: This manpage (and a few others) are very important parts of the perl package documentation. Separating it from perl is a non-option from the perspective of users.

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-27 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:34:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:55:55AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. So it does. It will have to be relicensed or removed. I

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:25:52AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: This manpage (and a few others) are very important parts of the perl package documentation. Separating it from perl is a non-option from the perspective of users. Objection. The sole purpose of this manpage is to duplicate things

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:25:52AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:34:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I concur. Alternatively, the package containing it could be moved to non-free... #pragma begin_sarcasm(1000) [...] #pragma end_sarcasm() See what happens when I

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-27 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:25:52AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: So it does. It will have to be relicensed or removed. I concur. Alternatively, the package containing it could be moved to non-free... #pragma begin_sarcasm(1000) Move perl to non-free?, things seem to be getting out of

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-27 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:31:33PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: No, the package containing it, which means creating a perl-doc-non-free package. But wait--we can't even do that, due to the very licensing we're discussing. Even worse. -- Glenn Maynard

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:55:55AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. So it does. It will have to be relicensed or removed. I concur. Alternatively, the package containing it could be moved to

Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-24 Thread Guido Trotter
Package: perl-doc Version: 5.8.0-18 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 2.2.1 Hi, It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. Here is an extract from the bottom of the manpage: Distribution Conditions Copyright 1998 The Perl Journal. When included

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-24 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. So it does. It will have to be relicensed or removed. (This does not add much, I know, but I felt the cc: to debian-legal ought to result in some kind of response from us d-l people). -- Henning