Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:07:23 -0400 Glenn Maynard wrote: > The Social Contract states that everything in > Debian must be free, with the DFSG being the guidelines to determine > whether a work is free. This has been discussed at extreme length, > culminating in SC2004-003, which affirmed that ever

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Rob Browning
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally, I would retain them as a courtesy to upstream; users are > no more and no less free to modify or remove them than Debian is. > The alternative -- to demand that all content other than license > texts and other legal indicia must be arb

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sat, 2005-18-06 at 09:26 +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > The Social Contract needs to be changed then, if it leads to such > a silliness. http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution ~Evan -- Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Debian Project (http://www.debian.org/)

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 09:26:00AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > (Please respect MFT) I do. The message I replied to did not have an MFT header. > The Social Contract needs to be changed then, if it leads to such > a silliness. Then feel free to propose a General Resolution to change it. Howev

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The Social Contract needs to be changed then, if it leads to such >a silliness. Yes. This is why we had months-long flames and we will continue to have them in the future. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Jérôme Marant
(Please respect MFT) > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:13:39PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > > They are out of the scope of the DFSG. They are neither programs nor > > documentation: they are speeches and articles which are logically > > non modifiable without the consent of their author. > > Sorry, y

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-18 Thread Jérôme Marant
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> They are out of the scope of the DFSG. They are neither programs nor >> documentation: they are speeches and articles which are logically >> non modifiable without the consent of their author. >> >> Whether they are around or not is irrelevant t

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:13:39PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > They are out of the scope of the DFSG. They are neither programs nor > documentation: they are speeches and articles which are logically > non modifiable without the consent of their author. Sorry, you're wrong. The Social Contract

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-17 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/17/05, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> etc/{CENSORSHIP,copying.paper,INTERVIEW,LINUX-GNU,THE-GNU-PROJECT,WHY-FREE} > > > > only "copying.paper" sounds like a license; the rest are simply documents, > > which must be DFSG-free to be i

Re: Bug#207932: Statement that all of Debian needs to be Free?

2005-06-17 Thread Jérôme Marant
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> etc/{CENSORSHIP,copying.paper,INTERVIEW,LINUX-GNU,THE-GNU-PROJECT,WHY-FREE} > > only "copying.paper" sounds like a license; the rest are simply documents, > which must be DFSG-free to be in Debian. This is not a matter of > controversy, or even signifi