Re: CCPL-by

2004-04-01 Thread Fedor Zuev
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: Now, the French contributor can sneak something past debian-legal by writing a license text that appears to grant permissions that the contributor has no power to grant. Is that what you want? Are you sure the location of the contributor is

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-31 Thread Joe Buck
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:30:56PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote: In my personal opinion, the moral rights idea is very disturbing. I know it has its defenders, ... The issue is not whether it's right or wrong. It's more fundamental than that. The DFSG were originally designed for software; if

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-31 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:30:56PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote: In my personal opinion, the moral rights idea is very disturbing. I know it has its defenders, ... The issue is not whether it's right or wrong. It's more fundamental than that. The DFSG

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-31 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The issue is not whether it's right or wrong. It's more fundamental than that. The DFSG were originally designed for software; if they are to be extended to apply to works that are mainly about expression rather than function, you risk bumping up against the law.

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 02:17:21PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: |]Except for the limited purpose of indicating to the public that the |]Work is licensed under the CCPL, neither party will use the trademark |]Creative Commons or any related trademark or logo of Creative |]Commons without

Re: Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Joe Buck
Jeremy Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not clear what the extent practicable means here, but it sounds like you may be required to purge the authors name/etc. from the work if the author asks you to. That sounds like another non-free point. Careful. Is Debian attempting to push a

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Hankins wrote: I don't know, I think that may be exactly what they wanted. After all, the license is all about maintaining attribution -- i.e., ensuring that folks who see derivative works know about all the people who contributed to it.

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone cared to check the source code of the page? This sections begins with a comment: !-- BREAKOUT FOR CC NOTICE. NOT A PART OF THE LICENSE -- So please just ask CC if they could make this fact more obvious (i.e. not just using different

Re: Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-03-31 00:11:19 +0100 Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Careful. Is Debian attempting to push a concept of free that conflicts with the European concept of the author's moral right? I think you should look at/ask after the work FSF Europe (.org) did on the Fiduciary Licence

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not clear what the extent practicable means here, but it sounds like you may be required to purge the authors name/etc. from the work if the author asks you to. That sounds like another non-free point.

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Jeremy Hankins wrote: Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Hankins wrote: | Well, no. This says you can't put your own name in big, bold letters | on | the cover while putting the original author's name in a footnote. It Well, if you wrote the majority of the (new) book,

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-26 Thread Nathanael Nerode
|trademark usage rights which are not otherwise restricted by law: | | |]Except for the limited purpose of indicating to the public that the |]Work is licensed under the CCPL, neither party will use the trademark |]Creative Commons or any related trademark or logo of Creative |]Commons without

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:17:21 -0500 Nathanael Nerode wrote: I'm sure CC didn't really intend this; I don't know who to write to to tell them Fix your license!, though. I'd think that the right contact is shown here: http://creativecommons.org/discuss#license -- | GnuPG Key ID

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-26 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Hankins wrote: | Well, no. This says you can't put your own name in big, bold letters on | the cover while putting the original author's name in a footnote. It Well, if you wrote the majority of the (new) book, and the original author

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-25 Thread Jeremy Hankins
clause is non-free on its face, because it restricts trademark usage rights which are not otherwise restricted by law: ]Except for the limited purpose of indicating to the public that the ]Work is licensed under the CCPL, neither party will use the trademark ]Creative Commons or any related

CCPL-by

2004-03-24 Thread Francesco Poli
Hello everybody, I would like to know your opinion about the Creative Commons Attribution License 1.0: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/1.0/legalcode I searched the -legal archives, but I was not able to find a clear statement about this license... Is there any consensus about its DFSG

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-24 Thread Nathanael Nerode
to the public that the Work is ]licensed under the CCPL, neither party will use the trademark Creative ]Commons or any related trademark or logo of Creative Commons without the ]prior written consent of Creative Commons. Any permitted use will be in ]compliance with Creative Commons' then-current