Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Claus Färber
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape is a registered design (called design patent in the US). Even if

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:23:00AM +0100, Claus F?rber wrote: Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Daniel Goldsmith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:53:32 -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: You've got the Freemason logo in there feature for feature! That's not original clip art.

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Claus Färber
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape is a registered design (called design patent in the US). Even if

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:23:00AM +0100, Claus F?rber wrote: Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape

I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's right to distribute other people's

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell,

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell,

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco,

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:16:24AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? Context is everything. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? They're not. Look! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1312774.stm There's one now. It's perfectly

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or not this

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: clearly what it is. Duracell has no right in law to stop others from depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to I dare you to package the golden arches

I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's right to distribute other people's

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell,

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco,

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different?

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:16:24AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? Context is everything. - David Nusinow

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? They're not. Look! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1312774.stm There's one now. It's perfectly

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? Without knowing context and intent, we cannot answer; since you have not related that to Debian, I do not wish to go into

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or not this clip art were nearby. Kind

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or not this

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:36:19AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: Removal of the pacman image is the only one that I can see any case for at all Even if this were once true (which I doubt), there's no chance that anybody still has a valid trademark on pacman; it's diluted to the point of being

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: clearly what it is. Duracell has no right in law to stop others from depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. Or Mr. Peanut. You've got the

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:38:34PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. Or Mr. Peanut. What good would that accomplish? [I'm hoping you can give me a meaningful answer.] Also, is there some reason to represent a Mr. Peanut instead of just a regular

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: clearly what it is. Duracell has no right in law to stop others from depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to I dare you to package the golden arches