On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:36:37AM -0700, Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Jeff Epler wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how transmitting a range of bytes in a
torrent is different than transmitting a range of bytes in response to
e.g., an FTP REST or an HTTP byte-range request.
It's
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Jeff Epler wrote:
Are you saying that nothing inside a (complete) debian ISO image
containing GPLv2 software in executable form fulfills either the
3.b) written offer or 3.c) information you received conditions
for distribution? That if I give someone a CDR with a
Ken Arromdee wrote:
[GPLv2, section 3] That section only applies if you got a
written offer. People who use Bittorrent to download (and therefore to
upload) Debian don't have a written offer, so they can't take advantage of
that clause. (Debian itself is, as you point out, distributing
* Stefan Hirschmann:
My opion is that this behavior is not good for Debian's reputation and
the project should take legal action against the lawyer and this
company.
From what I've read, it is not clear at all whether a lawyer actually
sent anything.
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Jeff Epler wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how transmitting a range of bytes in a
torrent is different than transmitting a range of bytes in response to
e.g., an FTP REST or an HTTP byte-range request.
It's not. Imagine that instead of torrenting the file, you just
Florian Weimer fw at deneb.enyo.de writes:
* Stefan Hirschmann:
My opion is that this behavior is not good for Debian's reputation and
the project should take legal action against the lawyer and this
company.
From what I've read, it is not clear at all whether a lawyer actually
[...]
Calling the German lawyer to find out who are his client might be a
good idea.
I heard from other sources, which I consider trustworthy, that this
was discovered to be a fake letter, sent as a sort of bad joke.
Therefore, the specific case is of no real interest, although I agree that
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Vincent Bernat wrote:
The
problem is that on Bittorrent, everyone who downloads also uploads. This
makes it illegal to download just a binary, since if you do that you're
also
uploading just a binary, and uploading
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, Michael Poole wrote:
How do you reconcile your claim with these sections of the GPLv2 and
v3, both referring to an executable or object-code form of the work?
GPLv2, section 3: You may Accompany it with the information you
received as to the offer to distribute
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du dimanche 24 avril 2011, vers 00:07, Ken
Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net disait :
The lawyer wants the poster to pay 700 Euro and stop uploading of Debian.
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My opion is that this behavior is not good for Debian's reputation
and the project
On 04/24/2011 12:07 AM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Stefan Hirschmann wrote:
The lawyer wants the poster to pay 700 Euro and stop uploading of Debian.
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My opion is that this behavior is not good for Debian's reputation and
the project should take legal
Stefan Hirschmann wrote:
Short English summary:
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A lawyer from Augsburg, Germany sent a Abmahnung [2] to a person which
downloaded Debian using Bittorrent.
The company Media Art Holland b.v claimed that she has the Nutzungs
und Verwertungsrechte (something like
MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop schrieb:
Stefan Hirschmann wrote:
Short English summary:
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A lawyer from Augsburg, Germany sent a Abmahnung [2] to a person which
downloaded Debian using Bittorrent.
The company Media Art Holland b.v claimed that she has the Nutzungs
Op 24/04/2011 14:02, Stefano Zacchiroli schreef:
I think the
first step to do is to get hold of the original cease and desist
mail. Has anyone managed to have it yet?
This story sounds too absurd to be true.
I've googled for the keywords Media Art Holland and I can't find the
web site of that
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Vincent Bernat wrote:
The
problem is that on Bittorrent, everyone who downloads also uploads. This
makes it illegal to download just a binary, since if you do that you're also
uploading just a binary, and uploading just a binary is a form of distribution
the GPL doesn't
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Michael Wild wrote:
The
problem is that on Bittorrent, everyone who downloads also uploads. This
makes it illegal to download just a binary, since if you do that you're
also uploading just a binary, and uploading just a binary is a form of
distribution the GPL doesn't
Joerg Schilling or LaForge too may be good sources of information.
-- Sriram
On 4/24/11, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:11:58AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
I agree. I'm cc'ing the DPL to see if the project can ask SPI-inc.org
lawyers for assistance. Do we
Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net writes:
It's my understanding that in Germany lawyers can do this to copyright
violators even though they are not the copyright holder.
This is not true. Under German competition law, someone can hire a
lawyer to send a cease-and-desist letter to a competitor if
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 09:57:22PM +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote:
Joerg Schilling
You must be joking. We're looking for legal expertise, not reality
distortion fields.
or LaForge too may be good sources of information.
Who?
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 09:57:22PM +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote:
or LaForge too may be good sources of information.
Who?
Harald Welte, founder of gpl-violations.org:
http://gpl-violations.org/about.html#whois
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bye,
Hi!
Today I noticed a strang forum posting: [1]
Short English summary:
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A lawyer from Augsburg, Germany sent a Abmahnung [2] to a person which
downloaded Debian using Bittorrent.
The company Media Art Holland b.v claimed that she has the Nutzungs
und
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Stefan Hirschmann wrote:
The lawyer wants the poster to pay 700 Euro and stop uploading of Debian.
-
My opion is that this behavior is not good for Debian's reputation and the
project should take legal action against the lawyer and this company.
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