Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On 27 May 2005 09:31:37 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fact that it's not debian-legal's job in the first place? > > Seriously, if you can find references that provide constitutional > > delegation of these decisions to -legal, I'll be somewhat more happy >

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-27 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact that it's not debian-legal's job in the first place? Seriously, > if you can find references that provide constitutional delegation of > these decisions to -legal, I'll be somewhat more happy about it all. I agree with the first three lines: de

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-26 Thread Matthew Garrett
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please try and avoid non-costructive criticism. > It's true that debian-legal often experiences what can be seen as > "noise" or "interesting discussions", depending on your point of view, > mood, and temperature... but calling it "masturbation" is a bit

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:53:29 +0100 Matthew Garrett wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I disagree with that. Debian is an online organisation and > > discussion and decision need to happen online. Noone is prevented to > > read debian-legal. > > People are heavily discourag

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:48:49 -0500 Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 07:55:52PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > > Could we at least wait until post-Helsinki? There's a session on the > > DFSG planned, and it would be helpful to gain a better idea of what > > the not-on-legal par

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I talked with Branden yesterday and he explained this rather clearly. > The requirement in the QPL is no different than the requirement in the > GPL that source either accompany the binary, or that a "written offer > be extended, good for 3 years, blah, blah, only charge

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:53:29PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I disagree with that. Debian is an online organisation and discussion > > and decision need to happen online. Noone is prevented to read > > debian-legal. > > People are heavily dis

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Quoting "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Florian Weimer wrote: QPL is usually considered free, but its use is discouraged. An additional exception, as granted by OCaml for example, can improve things. Even though the license says this: "You must ensure that all recipients of the

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Matthew Garrett
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree with that. Debian is an online organisation and discussion > and decision need to happen online. Noone is prevented to read > debian-legal. People are heavily discouraged from reading debian-legal because it's full of huge amounts of masturb

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 07:55:52PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Could we at least wait until post-Helsinki? There's a session on the > DFSG planned, and it would be helpful to gain a better idea of what the > not-on-legal part of the project think about these sort of issues. I disagree with

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 09:04:52PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Wait, the QPL (with no additional permission and a choice of venue) > >is *not* DFSG-free (many long discussions were hold on debian-legal last > >summer, IIRC). > This is just bullshit. A few people thin

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Wait, the QPL (with no additional permission and a choice of venue) >is *not* DFSG-free (many long discussions were hold on debian-legal last >summer, IIRC). This is just bullshit. A few people thinking it's not free does not make it non-free. -- ciao, Marco -- To UN

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How will this be summarised, will it tell us anything about the > not-at-Helsinki-for-summer-vac part of the project and which is > larger? Regardless of anything else, a full recording of it should be available afterwards. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 22 May 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Could we at least wait until post-Helsinki? There's a session on the >> DFSG planned, and it would be helpful to gain a better idea of what >> the not-on-legal part of the project think about these sort of >>

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 22 May 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Could we at least wait until post-Helsinki? There's a session on the > DFSG planned, and it would be helpful to gain a better idea of what > the not-on-legal part of the project think about these sort of > issues. Have you had a chance to outline this

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-22 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I think a bug should be filed immediately... > Could we at least wait until post-Helsinki? There's a session on the > DFSG planned, and it would be helpful to gain a better idea of what the > not-on-leg

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-22 Thread Matthew Garrett
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait, the QPL (with no additional permission and a choice of venue) > is *not* DFSG-free (many long discussions were hold on debian-legal last > summer, IIRC). There's disagreement over that. > Based on what has been stated and on > http://packages.de

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-22 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 22 May 2005 05:58:41 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > QPL is usually considered free, but its use is discouraged. Wait, the QPL (with no additional permission and a choice of venue) is *not* DFSG-free (many long discussions were hold on debian-legal last summer, IIRC). Based on what has bee

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-21 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Roberto C. Sanchez: > > >>I have been recently checking out packages up for adoption or >>already orphaned. In the process I came across regexplorer [0]. >>Here are the dependencies of regexplorer and their respective >>licenses (as I understand it): >> >>* libc6 (LGPL)

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roberto C. Sanchez: > I have been recently checking out packages up for adoption or > already orphaned. In the process I came across regexplorer [0]. > Here are the dependencies of regexplorer and their respective > licenses (as I understand it): > > * libc6 (LGPL) > * libgcc1 (GPL w/ exception

License question about regexplorer

2005-05-20 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I have been recently checking out packages up for adoption or already orphaned. In the process I came across regexplorer [0]. Here are the dependencies of regexplorer and their respective licenses (as I understand it): * libc6 (LGPL) * libgcc1 (GPL w/ exception) * libqt3c102-mt (QPL/GPL) * libstd