On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
No source code is provided for the DSP binaries. (N.B., past
discussions of this issue have reached the conclusion that such
software can nevertheless be distributed in main.)
You're talking about the files in
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 16:03, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
You're talking about the files in mwavem-1.0.4/src/dsp, right?
Yes.
Interestingly enough, those files are in RIFF format. It's a structured
multimedia container format.
Interesting.
Embedded somewhere in the header of v90.dsp is
the
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:00:08PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
That isn't ignoring the DFSG, it's just using the GPL's definition of
Source: the preferred form for modification. If I use the Gimp to
make an image and delete the intermediate xcf files, the only
remaining source forms are
it's extremely questionable to try to interpret
preferred form for modification as preferred form for modification,
or any form, no matter how unreasonable it is to edit, if the preferred
form for modification has been lost.
The preferred form for modification is not the form we'd like to
On 2003-09-26, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Back to the DSP binaries: I remember that at one point there were DSP
binaries included in the Linux kernel source. Is that still the case?
AFAIK, this is one good reason that Debian does not distribute
pristine kernel sources: the
Glenn Maynard said:
We can interpret DFSG#2 to mean the form closest to source that still
exists if we want, but it's extremely questionable to try to interpret
preferred form for modification as preferred form for modification,
or any form, no matter how unreasonable it is to edit, if the
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:25:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
If it's licensed under the GPL, and no source is provided, then it can
not be distributed at all, not even in non-free, unless there never was
source to begin with. (I assume this isn't the case, as you said no
source code is
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On Friday 26 September 2003 08:48, Florian Weimer wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:25:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
If it's licensed under the GPL, and no source is provided, then it can
not be distributed at all, not even in non-free,
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:25:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
If it's licensed under the GPL, and no source is provided, then it can
not be distributed at all, not even in non-free, unless there never was
source to begin with. (I assume this
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:25:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
We should allow it if source code once existed but no longer exists (all
the copies of the source code were wiped accidentally at some time in
the past). (This has happened with old games and firmware fairly often,
and the
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We should allow it if source code once existed but no longer exists (all
the copies of the source code were wiped accidentally at some time in
the past).
So it's okay to ignore the DFSG in this case?
It's not ignoring the DFSG; it's interpreting
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:25:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
We should allow it if source code once existed but no longer exists (all
the copies of the source code were wiped accidentally at some time in
the past).
So it's okay to ignore
Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
it says is licensed under the GPL.
http://oss.software.ibm.com/acpmodem/
No source code is provided for the DSP binaries. (N.B., past
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lun 22/09/2003 ? 09:46, Glenn Maynard a ?crit :
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
Le lun 22/09/2003 à 16:04, Sam Hocevar a écrit :
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003, Josselin Mouette wrote:
If the binaries were entirely written using assembly code, the binary
here equates the source.
This is very rarely true. Even assembly code has variable and function
names, comments and
It depends. If there a mutual one-to-one correspondence
between assembler line and DSP processor command it is, mainly, a
differences in format.
Most (almost all?) non-trivial assembly code contains things like
variable names and comments.
On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 02:47 US/Eastern, Thomas Hood wrote:
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
it says is licensed under the GPL.
http://oss.software.ibm.com/acpmodem/
No source code is provided for the DSP binaries.
What about DFSG 2?
The mwavem package includes binaries for the Mwave(tm) digital signal
processor (DSP) chip found on some ThinkPad(tm). With the binaries
installed the Mwave implements a modem.
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
it says is licensed under the GPL.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
it says is licensed under the GPL.
http://oss.software.ibm.com/acpmodem/
No source code is provided for the DSP binaries. (N.B., past
discussions of this
Le lun 22/09/2003 à 09:46, Glenn Maynard a écrit :
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
IBM distributes the Linux driver and the binaries in a tarball that
it says is licensed under the GPL.
http://oss.software.ibm.com/acpmodem/
No source code is provided for
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
If the binaries were entirely written using assembly code, the binary
here equates the source.
You really mean machine code here, right? Because I would
appreciate the .s source files if someone wrote it in assembler.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003, Josselin Mouette wrote:
If the binaries were entirely written using assembly code, the binary
here equates the source.
This is very rarely true. Even assembly code has variable and function
names, comments and macros. A disassembler output is certainly not the
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