Packaging fst and dssi-vst
Hi all, I'd like to one or both of these two applications: http://dssi.sourceforge.net http://joebutton.co.uk/fst/ in Debian. Basically they allow running VST audio plugins under Linux, using wine. Both of them are GPL, but unfortunately depend at build time on the VST SDK, which is non-free: http://www.steinberg.de/Steinberg/Developers8b99.html However, once compiled, they do not need the above headers anymore. I already maintain a few packages, and if there is a chance to see these two in Debian I'll be glad to take care of them. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
This one time, at band camp, Free Ekanayaka said: Hi all, I'd like to one or both of these two applications: http://dssi.sourceforge.net http://joebutton.co.uk/fst/ in Debian. Basically they allow running VST audio plugins under Linux, using wine. Both of them are GPL, but unfortunately depend at build time on the VST SDK, which is non-free: http://www.steinberg.de/Steinberg/Developers8b99.html However, once compiled, they do not need the above headers anymore. I already maintain a few packages, and if there is a chance to see these two in Debian I'll be glad to take care of them. dssi is already in Debian, and doesn't use non-free software to build. For the other, I have no idea, but if it really needs non-free software to build, it's not suitable for main, at least. Take care, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
On Thu, 02, Mar, 2006 at 10:26:46AM +0100, Free Ekanayaka spoke thus.. Hi all, I'd like to one or both of these two applications: http://dssi.sourceforge.net http://joebutton.co.uk/fst/ in Debian. Basically they allow running VST audio plugins under Linux, using wine. Both of them are GPL, but unfortunately depend at build time on the VST SDK, which is non-free: http://www.steinberg.de/Steinberg/Developers8b99.html However, once compiled, they do not need the above headers anymore. Well, first of all, DSSI itself is in Debian main already (see pkg-dssi on alioth) and doesn't require the VST SDK to build. Some plugins for dssi may require the VST SDK and will need to be in non-free as far as I can tell, however there are other plugins written directly for DSSI which are GPL/BSD/whatever from scratch. Mark -- Mark Hymers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I told you I was ill The epitaph of Spike Milligan (1918-2002) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
On Thu, 02, Mar, 2006 at 10:26:41AM +, Mark Hymers spoke thus.. dssi may require the VST SDK and will need to be in non-free as far as I Mea culpa. I meant contrib of course if they just need the non-free header to build. Mark -- Mark Hymers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I once absent-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
|--== Mark Hymers writes: MH Well, first of all, DSSI itself is in Debian main already (see pkg-dssi MH on alioth) and doesn't require the VST SDK to build. MH Some plugins for MH dssi may require the VST SDK and will need to be in non-free as far as I MH can tell, however there are other plugins written directly for DSSI MH which are GPL/BSD/whatever from scratch. Sorry, I was actually meaning the dssi-vst plugin, not the base dssi engine. See http://dssi.sourceforge.net/download.html under the dssi-vst section. The other dssi plugins, though fully free, can't handle the VST instruments, many of which are of common use in the field of proprietary audio systems, and are becoming popular on GNU/Linux audio platforms too. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
|--== Stephen Gran writes: SG dssi is already in Debian, and doesn't use non-free software to build. SG For the other, I have no idea, but if it really needs non-free software SG to build, it's not suitable for main, at least. And indeed I was thinking to contrib, but I'm wondering if packages in contrib are allowed to build depend on non-free headers which are *not* in Debian due to license issues (this is the case of the VST SDK which I mentioned). Cleary this would imply that the package can't be build from source by build daemons, but should be built manually by the maintainer, who has agreed the VST SDK license and downloaded the headers. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
Free Ekanayaka wrote: |--== Stephen Gran writes: SG dssi is already in Debian, and doesn't use non-free software to build. SG For the other, I have no idea, but if it really needs non-free software SG to build, it's not suitable for main, at least. And indeed I was thinking to contrib, but I'm wondering if packages in contrib are allowed to build depend on non-free headers which are *not* in Debian due to license issues (this is the case of the VST SDK which I mentioned). Cleary this would imply that the package can't be build from source by build daemons, but should be built manually by the maintainer, who has agreed the VST SDK license and downloaded the headers. Yes, a package in contrib may require things which are not in Debian at all; for example, many Java packages in contrib require the Sun JDK, which Debian cannot distribute even in non-free. Not being able to autobuild is also OK; that's expected for many packages in contrib and non-free. Given that the package is specifically designed to run VST plugins from Windows, it seems pointless to go to a lot of effort to attempt to get it into main if most people will be using it with proprietary software anyway. - Josh Triplett signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Packaging fst and dssi-vst
|--== Josh Triplett writes: Cleary this would imply that the package can't be build from source by build daemons, but should be built manually by the maintainer, who has agreed the VST SDK license and downloaded the headers. JT Yes, a package in contrib may require things which are not in Debian at JT all; for example, many Java packages in contrib require the Sun JDK, JT which Debian cannot distribute even in non-free. Not being able to JT autobuild is also OK; that's expected for many packages in contrib and JT non-free. Given that the package is specifically designed to run VST JT plugins from Windows, it seems pointless to go to a lot of effort to JT attempt to get it into main if most people will be using it with JT proprietary software anyway. Thanks for the clarification. I think this is definitely flash for contrib. I have draft package ready and I'm going to open an ITP. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
