Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:33:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Now, maybe the latter is what Trolltech *means*, but it's not what the license *says*. When we've got representatives of the FSF asserting that there is no fair use right to private modification because of the _Texaco_ case,

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 03:01:44PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. You may make modifications to the Software and distribute your modifications, in a form that is separate from the Software, such as

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 03:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a. Modifications must not alter or remove any copyright notices in the Software. This is fine, except that it attaches to modification and not distribution of

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. You may make modifications to the Software and distribute your modifications, in a form that is separate from the Software, such as patches. The following restrictions

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jakob Bohm On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:29:12PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Hm, this analysis suggests that we should reject a license reading 1. You may modify this software and give away patches or modified source, if you make your modifications available under This

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:29:12PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... b. When modifications to the Software are released under this license, a non-exclusive royalty-free right is granted to the initial developer of the Software to

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-17 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:29:12PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: [...] because it prevents me from making modifications without granting everyone the right to take them proprietary. However, it is hard to pin this kind of unfreedom to a specific point in the DFSG. Wouldn't this principle also

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a. Modifications must not alter or remove any copyright notices in the Software. This is fine, except that it attaches to modification and not distribution of modifications that do this. We should encourage licensors to be more clear about

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 15 March 2003 03:06 pm, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Fair Use does *not* allow you unlimited rights to create derivative works. It might suck, but it just doesn't. Copyright law restricts copying and the preparation of derivative works, even if you don't distribute the

QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 01:07:41AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:03:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Ok, I think you're right. That means the QPL is not actually a problem, even if you object to all