Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-28 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Francesco! On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:33:43 +0200, Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it wrote: 1. maxmind. Web page[1] show that C code is under LGPL but data files are under Open Data License (BSD-like + fixed text acknowledgment -- slightly non-free?). This Open Data License looks

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-27 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Matthäi schrieb: Hello lists and maxmind, (please CC me in your replys, I am not subscribed to debian-legal@ and debian-devel@, thanks). I am now, so ignore it. :) . But I have got a serious problem with it: 1) upstream delivers

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Patrick Matthäi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MJ Ray schrieb: Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org wrote: GeoIP is a quite usefull library for geolocation. It has got a stable ABI/API and upstream is normaly very helpfull with patches and issues. [...] Currently I see

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Bjørn Mork
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes: 5) We create a new free database. I don't think is too difficult, and I think we would have support also at high level. But it needs a lot of communication works: the term of service of IANA and the RIRs (Regional Internet Registry) forbid to

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 26, Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org wrote: 5) We create a new free database. I don't think is too difficult, and I think we would have support Sure, a database which can associate an IP address with a country 90% of the time will be easy to create and if widely used in a few years

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 11:09 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : You are aware of the GPLv3 licensed database at http://software77.net/geo-ip/ ? Woohoo, nice. Combine this with Julien’s idea to implement support for a new database format, and I think you have the correct solution. Cheers, --

RE: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 11:09 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : You are aware of the GPLv3 licensed database at http://software77.net/geo-ip/ ? Woohoo, nice. Combine this with Julien’s idea to implement support for a new database format, and I think you have the correct solution. And who ports

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Bjørn! On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:09:35 +0200, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: Somebody would help me contacting and convincing the RIRs about a free geoIP database? I believe such usage can be considered within the RIRs AUPs, provided that you follow their guidelines for bulk downloads and

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Cherepanov schrieb: Hi Bjørn! On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:09:35 +0200, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: Somebody would help me contacting and convincing the RIRs about a free geoIP database? I believe such usage can be considered within

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:53:49 +0400 Alexander Cherepanov wrote: [...] 1. maxmind. Web page[1] show that C code is under LGPL but data files are under Open Data License (BSD-like + fixed text acknowledgment -- slightly non-free?). This Open Data License looks like something more or less

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-26 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Patrick! On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:37:56 +0200, Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org wrote: 1. maxmind. Web page[1] show that C code is under LGPL but data files are under Open Data License (BSD-like + fixed text acknowledgment -- slightly non-free?). However Debian copyright file

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-25 Thread MJ Ray
Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org wrote: GeoIP is a quite usefull library for geolocation. It has got a stable ABI/API and upstream is normaly very helpfull with patches and issues. [...] Currently I see only three options: 1) upstream decides to open his build system 2) we move it to

Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-25 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello lists and maxmind, (please CC me in your replys, I am not subscribed to debian-legal@ and debian-devel@, thanks). First some facts: - - geoip is installed/used by many users, popcon reports something like 20% - - Some more packages are in the

Re: Serious problem with geoip - databases could not be build from source

2009-08-25 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MJ Ray schrieb: Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org wrote: GeoIP is a quite usefull library for geolocation. It has got a stable ABI/API and upstream is normaly very helpfull with patches and issues. [...] Currently I see only three options: