On Tuesday 23 September 2003 09:24, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> PS: Am I the only one with the impression every single thing must be
> repeated to RMS AND yeupou AND Fedor Zuev AND Sergey foobar and any
> other blind GFDL advocate who is told Debian is BAD, because they want
> to drop FREE (it is w
Stephen Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No, you're not the only one with that impression. Personally, I'm ready
> to killfille [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a bunch of trolls. The only reason I
> haven't is that I think there are some people worth listening to who are
> part of gnu, but you'd never kn
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2003-09-23 02:38:44 +0100 Remi Vanicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Whoa. "You don't agree with me/the majority, so go away..." I don't
>> like the way you say this.
>
> That's probably because I didn't write that at all. Feel free to put
> whatever word
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 04:25, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Stephen Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > No, you're not the only one with that impression. Personally, I'm ready
> > to killfille [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a bunch of trolls. The only reason I
> > haven't is that I think there are some
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 03:24, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> PS: Am I the only one with the impression every single thing must be
> repeated to RMS AND yeupou AND Fedor Zuev AND Sergey foobar and any
> other blind GFDL advocate who is told Debian is BAD, because they want
> to drop FREE (it is written f
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:24:12AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> PS: Am I the only one with the impression every single thing must be
> repeated to RMS AND yeupou AND Fedor Zuev AND Sergey foobar and any
> other blind GFDL advocate who is told Debian is BAD, because they want
> to drop FREE (it
Le mar 23/09/2003 à 08:31, Mathieu Roy a écrit :
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
>
> > On 2003-09-22 15:14:45 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
> > > (nobody question that) help us to draw the line at the correct
On 2003-09-23 02:38:44 +0100 Remi Vanicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Whoa. "You don't agree with me/the majority, so go away..." I don't
like the way you say this.
That's probably because I didn't write that at all. Feel free to put
whatever words you want into my mouth if you want to be su
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2003-09-22 15:14:45 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
>> (nobody question that) help us to draw the line at the correct place
>> also for documentation?
>
> Trivially, all Debian devel
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2003-09-22 16:05:31 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because you are confronted with a situation where your arguments, that
> > you repeat and repeat, do not convince your interlocutor (me in this
> > case)?
>
> There are two ways to argue a
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Many people, including the author of the DFSG, have stated that they
> believe that the DFSG was intended to apply to documentation as well.
> The number of people arguing that documentation should not fall under
> the standards of freedom set out by t
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The point is whether every software IN DEBIAN needs to be free.
>
> That is indeed the question.
>
> I think personally that it is harmful to do so and harmless to let
> that essays where they are, since they do not interfere with the
> program and docume
On 2003-09-23 07:31:14 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So any member of GNU must resign from Debian or GNU? Interesting.
I am surprised people don't accuse you of "slippery slope" as quickly
as I was accused recently.
[...] So, does the DFSG definition of freedom help us to dra
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:31:14AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
>
> > On 2003-09-22 15:14:45 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
> > > (nobody question that) help us to draw the line at
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On 2003-09-22 15:14:45 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
> > (nobody question that) help us to draw the line at the correct place
> > also for documentation?
>
> Trivially, all Debia
Mathieu Roy, 2003-09-22 16:50:18 +0200 :
[...]
> In other terms, do we consider the fact that we cannot modify a
> political essay in a documentation so harmful that we would prefer
> stopping delivering this documentation?
>
> That is indeed the question.
Yes indeed. And the answer, as far as
On 2003-09-22 15:14:45 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
(nobody question that) help us to draw the line at the correct place
also for documentation?
Trivially, all Debian developers who have passed P&P should have
agreed t
On 2003-09-22 16:05:31 +0100 Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because you are confronted with a situation where your arguments, that
you repeat and repeat, do not convince your interlocutor (me in this
case)?
There are two ways to argue against someone: present data or claim
that they ar
Mathieu Roy wrote:
>Free, in think that everybody agree, but under which definition of
>freedom? Does the DFSG definition of freedom that applies to program
>(nobody question that) help us to draw the line at the correct place
>also for documentation?
Many people, including the author of the DFSG
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:14:45PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
>
> > On Monday 22 September 2003 14:32, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > > The point is whether every software needs to be free or just program
> > > and their documentation.
> >
> > The point is whet
On Monday 22 September 2003 17:05, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> > Why do I have the impression to be in an infinite loop ?
>
> Because you are confronted with a situation where your arguments, that
> you repeat and repeat, do not convince your interlocutor (me i
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> Why do I have the impression to be in an infinite loop ?
Because you are confronted with a situation where your arguments, that
you repeat and repeat, do not convince your interlocutor (me in this
case)?
You know, there is an easy way out, if you're f
Why do I have the impression to be in an infinite loop ?
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Monday 22 September 2003 14:32, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > The point is whether every software needs to be free or just program
> > and their documentation.
>
> The point is whether every software IN DEBIAN needs to be free.
You are right, that's the q
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