Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-30 Thread Josh Triplett
Lewis Jardine wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 10:15:23AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I apologize if I failed to respond to arguments in your initial mail; I can assure you it was not intentional. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find the subthread you are referring to. My

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-26 Thread Lewis Jardine
Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 10:15:23AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I apologize if I failed to respond to arguments in your initial mail; I can assure you it was not intentional. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find the subthread you are referring to. My post may have been :

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly the kind of thing I and Sven are talking about. There is an implicit assumption here that an argument crafted over more than a day or two must obviously be inferior to one that is spammed out from the tip of

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 06:34:24PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the process Sven describes here seems to be happening. Some people on the list abuse the other participants until they leave, and then claim consensus

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:23:35PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: intention would clearly be to dealy the issue until

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:35:55AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 06:34:24PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven's messages are constantly and deliberately laced with derision and insults--in almost *every*

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:52:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:23:35PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't bother writing to me again. Your previous posts have made it clear that you don't even bother reading here anything apart from the posts which interests you, and that you have no problem making half backed claims based on pure speculation.

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:29:35PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have accpeted the ocaml is non-free consensus without a word, and see it removed from debian and all the (30-50 by now) packages that depend on it without moving, apart from relying

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Josh Triplett
Sven Luther wrote: Also, i have to remember you that my first post here, where i voiced arguments in contradiction of Josh's summary, was answered by josh, but none of the arguments i held there where responded. I apologize if I failed to respond to arguments in your initial mail; I can assure

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Josh Triplett
Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:29:35PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have accpeted the ocaml is non-free consensus without a word, and see it removed from debian and all the (30-50 by now) packages that depend on it without moving, apart

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 10:15:23AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Also, i have to remember you that my first post here, where i voiced arguments in contradiction of Josh's summary, was answered by josh, but none of the arguments i held there where responded. I

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-24 Thread lex
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: intention would clearly be to dealy the issue until everyone who opposes you has left in disgust, and you can claim consensus. *You've* driven three people out of this discussion with your

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-24 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the process Sven describes here seems to be happening. Some people on the list abuse the other participants until they leave, and then claim consensus afterwards. They may just as well procede to say that whoever

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: intention would clearly be to dealy the issue until everyone who opposes you has left in disgust, and you can claim

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-24 Thread Josh Triplett
Sven Luther wrote: I will ask upstream about this once they come back from vacations and have them see if their legal team, even if bad, can offer us some answer. Maybe the team working on the CECILL licence would also help here. What was the conclusion of that discussion ? And if we don't

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Poole
Sven Luther writes: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:02:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The procedure: attempt to debate something with Sv*n L*th*r, preferably in a public mailing list. This way others can play along without having to actually engage him in conversation. So, you are clearly

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 10:49:54AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Sven Luther writes: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:02:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The procedure: attempt to debate something with Sv*n L*th*r, preferably in a public mailing list. This way others can play along without

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 05:06:09PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 10:49:54AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Sven Luther writes: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:02:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The procedure: attempt to debate something with Sv*n L*th*r, preferably in a

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 12:35:01PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 05:06:09PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 10:49:54AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Sven Luther writes: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:02:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: intention would clearly be to dealy the issue until everyone who opposes you has left in disgust, and you can claim consensus. *You've* driven three people out of this discussion with your personal abuse against them. Who is exactly

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 09:17:38AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:37:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: intention would clearly be to dealy the issue until everyone who opposes you has left in disgust, and you can claim consensus. *You've* driven three people out of

Re: The Sv*n L*th*r drinking game

2004-07-23 Thread Dan Weber
Because you might be overly intoxicated and/or hospitalized taking drinks for everything Sven does, I suggest a simple case race is probably about as much alcohol as you should ever consume at one time we will forgive if you can't take all the drinks :) Dan Brian Nelson wrote: Sven Luther