On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:45:59 -0700 Adam McKenna wrote:
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:25:18 -0700 Adam McKenna wrote:
the reason you can copy a file
which has been released under the GPL without accepting the GPL is
because you
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:32:22PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
That would bring me to the conclusion that I must accept the GPL in
order to make a copy of a GPL'd work.
See for example GPL#4:
[ 4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program
[ except as expressly
Adam McKenna writes:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:32:22PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
That would bring me to the conclusion that I must accept the GPL in
order to make a copy of a GPL'd work.
See for example GPL#4:
[ 4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program
[
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 07:20:30PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
I'm not sure how you interpret that as allowing modifications for
personal use -- creating a derivative work or other adaptation would
not be an essential step in the utilization of the computer program
(etc; note the qualification
Adam McKenna writes:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 07:20:30PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
I'm not sure how you interpret that as allowing modifications for
personal use -- creating a derivative work or other adaptation would
not be an essential step in the utilization of the computer program
(etc;
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:29:59PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
Adam McKenna writes:
The CONTU final report states that The conversion of a program from one
higher-level language to another to facilitate use would fall within this
right, as would the right to add features to the program that
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:46:51 +0200 Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040602 16:42]:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by
the GPL's terms.[...]
If you log on some computer and make a copy there and transmit it to
you (like ssh'ing into
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:25:18 -0700 Adam McKenna wrote:
the reason you can copy a file
which has been released under the GPL without accepting the GPL is
because you are explicitly granted that right by the GPL.
I don't think so: you are not granted any right by a license, unless you
accept the
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:25:18 -0700 Adam McKenna wrote:
the reason you can copy a file
which has been released under the GPL without accepting the GPL is
because you are explicitly granted that right by the GPL.
I don't
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 01:09:00PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
I'll have to retract my assertation that one has to accept the GPL
before downloading a work covered by it. In most jurisdictions that I
know of, people by default have the right to create copies of most
copyrighted works for
* Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040602 16:42]:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the
GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing some
computer to make create a copy of the Work on your hard drive. Because
computers, legally speaking, do not
Scripsit Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I make photocopies of a book and put them on a shelf with a Free!
sign, and you then take a copy, I'm the one who made the copy available,
and the one needing permission from the copyright holder.
The thing that needs permission is not making the
On Jun 3, 2004, at 20:27, Henning Makholm wrote:
But that is actually irrelevant. The relevant part is that no matter
where you consider the copy to be made, *I* am the one who is
causing the computers (my own and the server) to make a copy at that
particular time and place.
So then the
Scripsit Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 12:52:37PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the
GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing some
computer to make create a copy of the Work on your
Henning Makholm wrote:
When I download something, the copy is being made on a hard disk that
sits in a box below my desk. Current is being modulated and passed
through a coil, which causes an area of the disk surface to be made
into a copy of the work.
But that is actually irrelevant. The
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 01:27:00AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
But that is actually irrelevant. The relevant part is that no matter
where you consider the copy to be made, *I* am the one who is
causing the computers (my own and the server) to make a copy at that
particular time and place.
Scripsit Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Except, the copy is being made on the server.
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 01:27:00AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
When I download something, the copy is being made on a hard disk that
sits in a box below my desk. Current is being modulated and passed
Scripsit Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is: I'm not required to accept the GPL if I simply want to download
(and install and use) a GPL'd piece of software.
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the
GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing
Scripsit Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is: I'm not required to accept the GPL if I simply want to download
(and install and use) a GPL'd piece of software.
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 12:52:37PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the
GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing some
computer to make create a copy of the Work on your hard drive. Because
computers, legally speaking, do not *do* anything by
On 02 Jun 2004 12:52:37 +0100 Henning Makholm wrote:
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the
GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing some
computer to make create a copy of the Work on your hard drive.
Thus a downloaded package (e.g. from Debian
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 12:52:37PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is: I'm not required to accept the GPL if I simply want to download
(and install and use) a GPL'd piece of software.
If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 16:27:28 +0100 Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
It seems to me that the person who puts something on line is usually
regarded as the person doing the copying.
That is indeed what I have thought till a few days ago... And it's still
the most reasonable interpretation I can think
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:35:09 +1000 Matthew Palmer wrote:
I guess, though, in a way
it's another wording of the GPL's you can't legally get a copy except
by the permissions we've granted here, so we'll take it as read you
accept this licence clause.
Wait, wait!
I'm not sure I understand what
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