Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 02:57:44PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: I think you're not a DD, so shut up is about the weakest argument possible It's just one of the classical fallacies (specifically argumentum ad hominem, stock in trade for some people around Debian). There's no real shortage of

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:50:42PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ I do love the way you just snipped the rhetoric I was following up to... ] *yawn* That's a nice line in rhetoric you have there. The DFSG is the standard that DDs have agreed should be the basis for

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 08:03:16PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:50:42PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ I do love the way you just snipped the rhetoric I was following up to... ] That's nice. It's an old quote, and people can follow back the thread if they need

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 08:03:16PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: FFS, that's not what I was saying. You need to be a DD to propose or vote on updates to the DFSG. You're clearly not a DD (nor in the NM queue), therefore you couldn't do either. You could change that if you

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:08:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Thanks for the props, however. I continue to believe that a DFSG analysis is the *beginning* of a process of understanding whether something is free software or not, not a substitute for the whole thing.

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-02-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:50:42PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: *yawn* That's a nice line in rhetoric you have there. The DFSG is the standard that DDs have agreed should be the basis for deciding on the Freeness of Software. If you want to extend it, you know what to So you're saying that the

a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-01-31 Thread Branden Robinson
Your papers are not in order, citizen... On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:04:25PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: All in all, I think that Branden's fifth freedom[1] is important, and should come into play here. Privacy in one's person includes fundamental [...] [1]

Re: a right to privacy is not in the DFSG, therfore you don't have one

2005-01-31 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:08:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Your papers are not in order, citizen... On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:04:25PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: All in all, I think that Branden's fifth freedom[1] is important, and should come into play here. Privacy in one's person