Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Måns Rullgård
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:39:32PM -0500, Arc Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not saying the patent issue should be ignored. It just strikes me as silly to even start comparing Theora with H.264. Certain graphic artists would say the same of GIMP

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:39:32 -0500 Arc Riley wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:09:39AM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: [...] The patent situation is unfortunate. Nevertheless, the H.264 codec is being adopted by broadcasters throughout the world. For good or bad, the codec is here to stay for

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:01:55 -0500 Arc Riley wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: [...] That said, VP3/Theora can hardly compare with H.264 in terms of coding efficiency. There really is no viable alternative in some situations. Microsoft's WMV9/VC1 comes

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread David Liontooth
wrote: David Liontooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you consider packaging x264 for Debian? My experience with your unofficial packages has been excellent on both x86 and amd64. Even though the library is still labeled in early development, it appears to be mature enough to be clearly useful

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:26:56PM -0800, David Liontooth wrote: Are there objections to including the new H.264 encoder in Debian? For details, see bug 354667 (request for packaging). Debian maintainer Christian Marillat currently maintains an unofficial package, and we would like your

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arc Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:26:56PM -0800, David Liontooth wrote: Are there objections to including the new H.264 encoder in Debian? For details, see bug 354667 (request for packaging). Debian maintainer Christian Marillat currently maintains an

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: The codec has dozens of different corporations holding patents over it, who will try to extract royalties for it in countries where those patents are upheld (ie, USA), and giving it this is free because it's GPL hurts truely

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arc Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: The codec has dozens of different corporations holding patents over it, who will try to extract royalties for it in countries where those patents are upheld (ie, USA), and giving it this is

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:09:39AM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Sure, On2 has allowed free use of *its* patents relating to VP3. That doesn't mean that some obscure company will pop up out of nowhere with a bunch of patents they claim *also* apply to VP3, and that On2 has been infringing all

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:39:32PM -0500, Arc Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not saying the patent issue should be ignored. It just strikes me as silly to even start comparing Theora with H.264. Certain graphic artists would say the same of GIMP vs Photoshop, or compare their