Re: asterisk and mysql_cdr

2005-02-28 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 02:13:21PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: libopenh323 is distributed under the MPL 1.0, for which MySQL AB have already granted a linking exception. YMMV for other GPL code involved. So while we're at it, let's go over the other parts of asterisk_addons:

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By throwing hardware support out the window? Good plan! We already did this with the firmwares decision. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread MJ Ray
Ben Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] debian-legal is not *the* place where it should be debated, where else could it be ? Maybe debian-x, maybe debian-devel or maybe you need a new list. [...] Now, not everybody installing Debian on their belief it is the distro most committed to

Summaries, was: handling Mozilla with kid gloves

2005-02-28 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT MJ Ray wrote: Well-meaning authors can go look at similar packages already in main and check the copyright file. Imitating other licensors and repeating the same poor choices again and again? [...] Maybe, but good/poor

Re: asterisk and mysql_cdr

2005-02-28 Thread Josh Triplett
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: format_mp3: License is GPL according to format_mp3.c and to MPGLIB_README . The mp3 code is based on libmpg from http://www.mpg123.org/ . However the front-page of that site claims: News 12. Jan. 2005 Yes! The project is not maintained at the moment and

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:16:46AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What sorts of issues with JPEGs? We should have available and distribute the prefered form for modification for them as well. That is, whatever form upstream actually uses when

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel Stone: On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 10:50:13AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: Is there some proof that the files are created that way, or is this just your assumptation? While you cannot prove it, it is incredibly unlikely that anyone would ever choose to write anything that way. After a

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Jeremy Hankins wrote: No, it doesn't. The lone JPEG is only non-free if the lossless version is what the original author would use to make a modification to the JPEG. If, for example, the original author threw out the lossless version immediately on making the JPEG,

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Ben Johnson
Maybe debian-x, maybe debian-devel or maybe you need a new list. Ok, debian-wankers, got it. If some people feel the topic is so absurd, why do they waste their time answering rudely ? I expect contradiction, but if gratuitously insulting others is some game, let them play with their

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Josh Triplett
Ben Johnson wrote: Maybe debian-x, maybe debian-devel or maybe you need a new list. Ok, debian-wankers, got it. If some people feel the topic is so absurd, why do they waste their time answering rudely ? I really don't know the answer to that question. I don't think MJ Ray was answering

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Ben Johnson
--- Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think MJ Ray was answering rudely there My sincere apologies to MJ Ray if I misunderstood what he was saying. Please don't let a few people spoil your outlook on debian-legal as a whole. - Josh Triplett Thank you, this is refreshing.

Re: Summaries

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On 28 Feb 2005 12:25:52 GMT MJ Ray wrote: Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT MJ Ray wrote: Well-meaning authors can go look at similar packages already in main and check the copyright file. Imitating other licensors and repeating the same poor choices

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:05:16 -0800 Don Armstrong wrote: What sorts of issues with JPEGs? We should have available and distribute the prefered form for modification for them as well. That is, whatever form upstream actually uses when upstream wants to modify the JPEG. In some cases, this will

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:16:46 + Matthew Garrett wrote: If we actually upheld this standard at present, it would result in us removing a large number of packages from Debian. I think that these issues are sarge-ignore because of GR2004-004, but will be release-critical bugs post-Sarge.

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 28 February 2005 11:16, Matthew Garrett wrote: I haven't tried to formulate a precise definition yet, but I think that the GPL's definition is stricter than we should require in general. We don't have the DFSG because they provide philosophical freedoms - we have the DFSG because

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Ben Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] What still bothers me is that after Daniel Stone's very opinion, nobody could honestly prefer to write a driver using hex values for registers AND functions, period. This is not just a case of bad coding practices, it is deliberate. I don't think that

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:15:20PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:16:46 + Matthew Garrett wrote: If we actually upheld this standard at present, it would result in us removing a large number of packages from Debian. I think that these issues are sarge-ignore

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] The DFS_Guidelines_ don't need to hold up in court. Therefore they are able to say that source which is unacceptable for modification because of lack of documentation, poor programming practices, obscure language or any arbitrary criteria you might

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:26:18PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: Of course, how else are people going to notice all the contemptible things? Given that there's an effectively infinite supply of worthless, useless and irrelevant things to express contempt at, I'd guess that people will never

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread MJ Ray
Ben Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, debian-wankers, got it. I really didn't understand that until I read Josh's explanation. I don't read many Marco d'Itri spews, so I thought you were ranting. I was thinking of something a bit more like the short-term private lists that exist for short

Re: Summaries

2005-02-28 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Feb 2005 12:25:52 GMT MJ Ray wrote: Maybe, but good/poor comments are a bit more judgement than the DLSes give too. They say this licence is foo rather than giving recommendations for what you think is the most common want. I'm sorry but I