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2005-05-13 Thread Arnaldo G.Santos
-- Arnaldo Gomes dos Santos Analista de Sistemas

RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Humberto Massa GuimarĂ£es
This might be relevant if we planned on distributing only non-working copies of Quagga. The copies of Quagga that Debian distributes are non-working; try to execute a Debian package... Anyways, I'll repeat my earlier assertion: if working copies of Quagga do not use functionality specific

Need advice for dual licensing

2005-05-13 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Anybody got a good advice for how to dual license some of the software I've developed. I would like to use GPL for non-commercial use (e.g. private persons and universities) and a commercial license for companies. Please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks, Svante -- To

Re: Need advice for dual licensing

2005-05-13 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On May 13, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Svante Signell wrote: Anybody got a good advice for how to dual license some of the software I've developed. I would like to use GPL for non-commercial use (e.g. private persons and universities) and a commercial license for companies. I could be wrong, but I see no

Re: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 12 May 2005, Raul Miller wrote: And, I might add, this is another respect in which the FSF FAQ verges upon the dishonest. Since 17 USC 117 explicitly limits the scope of what can be considered infringement under section 106, it also nullifies any claims of contributory

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what? A user building a package locally has nothing to do with us. If he violates the license by distributing said binaries, he is liable, not us. This isn't nothing to do with us. We've done practically all the work needed for the user to

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:06:23PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what? A user building a package locally has nothing to do with us. If he violates the license by distributing said binaries, he is liable, not us. This isn't nothing to do

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still, so what? How is building the package locally equivalent to infringement? Why did Napster decide to offer a billion dollars to the recording industry, to settle their copyright suit? Do you think they were just smoking crack? Unlike us,

RES: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Humberto Massa GuimarĂ£es
De: Raul Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:47:37PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: We have a license to distribute said material and we are abiding by the terms of the license. You might as well say that book

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 03:49:28PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Actually, I have made that claim. I've even shown the commands to issue to obtain evidence that we do so. Mind you, this is a collective work, and we will also distribute the pieces individually. But we sometimes don't

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mind you, this is a collective work, and we will also distribute the pieces individually. But we sometimes don't distribute the work is not equivalent to we do not distribute the work. And yet somehow this work can get on the user's

Re: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Michael K. Edwards
Raul wrote: If we don't do that, we might cause someone or some group (perhaps some of us) to get stuck with paying openssl.org some heavy license fee, to release openssl under gpl compatible terms. Or, maybe we'll create a situation requiring some other sort of settlement. And, if that's

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 04:17:27PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mind you, this is a collective work, and we will also distribute the pieces individually. But we sometimes don't distribute the work is not equivalent to we do not distribute

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/13/05, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you account for it getting onto user machines? I'm done here. That's fine. You are obviously more interested in trolling or spreading FUD than having a conversation. That's not. -- Raul

Re: Need advice for dual licensing

2005-05-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Hi, Anybody got a good advice for how to dual license some of the software I've developed. I would like to use GPL for non-commercial use (e.g. private persons and universities) and a commercial license for companies. Please

Re: Need advice for dual licensing

2005-05-13 Thread Svante Signell
Sorry for making inroads to other peoples territories. I just wanted to know if dual licensing is possible. Obviously is is not possible to combine GPL and other licences, but why are people talking about it? I've seen several notes about this on the web: Note that I have not releasesd any (code

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/13/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/13/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been rather consistently insulting for a number of days. Oh, please. Like you've been Mr. Clean. You have been rude, sarcastic, and dismissive from the very first message you

Re: RES: What makes software copyrightable anyway?

2005-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/13/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are other specific statements which you found to be insulting, please do let me know; it's possible that I have said something else comparable to behest of the FSF for which a similar apology is due. Thanks, but I'll take the