Re: Geant4 Software License, version 1.0

2006-07-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* MJ Ray: Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would be interested to hear your opinions on the Geant4 Software License, version 1.0 [1]. [...] [1] http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/license/LICENSE.html I think it is clearly GPL-incompatible (as you noted) for reasons similar to the old

Re: Geant4 Software License, version 1.0

2006-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] How exactly does automatic upstream licence violate the DFSG? This is how I think it *might* (as written previously, I'm unsure): 1. what is meant by entering into a separate written license agreement? 2. is it the same licence if it's the original+total donation

Re: Is the Sybase Open Watcom License ok?

2006-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:44:35AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: 12.1 Termination. This License and the rights granted hereunder will terminate: [...] (c) automatically without notice if You, at any time during the term of this License, commence an action

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
allan1956 [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way; the OSI has approved the CDDL as being complaint with thier guidelines, which I beleive are similar to DFSG, so inclusion of the FAR/DFAR clause doesn't seem to be a problem. The failed Open Source Initiative uses a definition, not guidelines, and seems

Re: Geant4 Software License, version 1.0

2006-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] * MJ Ray: of clauses 4 (automatic donation to upstream), [...] You retain your exploitation rights, you only grant upstream a free license. This is just a form of copyleft, only that the source license is granted to upstream, not the party that receives the

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-07-06 Thread allan1956
Thanks for some insights between OSI and DFSG I certianly didn't mean to imply that DFSG would accept just because OSI did. From a process and end-goal perspective they appear to be different Though from a legal perspective I respect rossen (who has left OSI) and assume his evaluation that the

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-07-06 Thread Michael Poole
allan1956 writes: Thanks for some insights between OSI and DFSG I certianly didn't mean to imply that DFSG would accept just because OSI did. From a process and end-goal perspective they appear to be different Though from a legal perspective I respect rossen (who has left OSI) and

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses lists several such licenses -- compare to http://www.opensource.org/licenses/. Notable examples are the APL, MPL, OSL and RPSL; there may be others derived from MPL that also fail DFSG [...] I think the MPL is an unsettled

Re: DFSG Licenses (was: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS)

2006-07-06 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 06 July 2006 17:36, MJ Ray wrote: Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses lists several such licenses -- compare to http://www.opensource.org/licenses/. Notable examples are the APL, MPL, OSL and RPSL; there may be others derived from MPL that

Re: Sofia SIP COPYRIGHTS

2006-07-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses lists several such licenses -- compare to http://www.opensource.org/licenses/. Notable examples are the APL, MPL, OSL and RPSL; there may be others derived from MPL that also fail DFSG, and I would argue that QPL has been settled as