Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Riley Baird
> IMHO it is a DFSG-compatible license because added clause is not a > restriction for field of endeavour but a termination clause similar to GPL > ones except that is is explicitly added to the license in order to blacklist > a known offender. Are you sure that Adarsh Mehta is a known

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 09:10:10 Florian Weimer wrote: > The restriction you cited violates DFSG §5 (“No Discrimination Against > Persons or Groups”). Well yes, but then how GPL termination clause is not a violation? Consider hypothetical situation when a known offender of the license have it

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
This is not a DFSG free license, and it will be rejected from NEW if it's sent there :) Cheers, Paul On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm seeking second opinion regarding mutation of the Expat license that can > be found in [1]. In

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread MJ Ray
On 10/13/15 08:50, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > On Tuesday 13 October 2015 09:10:10 Florian Weimer wrote: >> The restriction you cited violates DFSG §5 (“No Discrimination Against >> Persons or Groups”). > > Well yes, but then how GPL termination clause is not a violation? Because it is a clause

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 12:50:55 MJ Ray wrote: > On 10/13/15 08:50, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > Listing known offenders in addition to the text of the license wouldn't > > be violation of DFSG §5, right? > > Yes, it probably would - how would the listed people ever gain a new > valid licence? I

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 09:31:03 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > This is not a DFSG free license, and it will be rejected from NEW if it's > sent there :) Understood, thanks. But my question really is whether it can be re-phrased to blacklist/mention known offender(s) in a DFSG-compatible manner

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
It can not. Thanks, Paul On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > On Tuesday 13 October 2015 09:31:03 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > This is not a DFSG free license, and it will be rejected from NEW if it's > > sent there :) > > Understood, thanks. But my

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Ben Finney
Dmitry Smirnov writes: > But my question really is whether it can be re-phrased to > blacklist/mention known offender(s) in a DFSG-compatible manner and > how... The goal of excluding specific people, or groups of people, is not compatible with software freedom. It's also

Re: Expat + exception = DFSG-compatible?

2015-10-13 Thread Ángel González
El 13/10/15 21:53, Ben Finney escribió: Dmitry Smirnov writes: But my question really is whether it can be re-phrased to blacklist/mention known offender(s) in a DFSG-compatible manner and how... The goal of excluding specific people, or groups of people, is not