-built at a
later moment)
* The benefit of using a package that is used by several distros instead
of being the only distro using your own scripts, which means that there
will be less bugs
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
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Additionally (not well tested yet) it can run the Debian-Installer
similar to the Debian-Installer from the netinst image, i.e. it will
perform a full customised installation.
You can find weekly builds at [1], with the test results at [2].
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://get.debian.org
(Also I switched it away
from debian-devel)
Roland Clobus wrote:
I had a quick peek at the scripts you use [1].
[1] https://github.com/t2linux/T2-Ubuntu/tree/LTS
It appears to me that you want to create a custom Debian Live ISO (not a
netinst image).
Just out of pure curiosity: From what
regards,
Roland Clobus
Co-maintainer of live-build
[1] https://github.com/t2linux/T2-Ubuntu/tree/LTS
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[3]
https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html
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On 02/05/2024 12:14, Daniel Reichelt wrote:
Hi Roland,
> On 20/04/2024 13:32, Daniel Reichelt wrote:
> What are you doing that makes the directory 'config/includes.binary'
> disappear?
> If I use 'lb config --distribution sid', the directory is created (but
> empty) and there will be no
n detected.
I'll mark this on the todo page. For the short term, you can use the
netinst image instead.
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doing that makes the directory 'config/includes.binary'
disappear?
If I use 'lb config --distribution sid', the directory is created (but
empty) and there will be no error message.
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Roland Clobus
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working is my first priority. Patches are always welcome.
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Roland Clobus
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/TODO
[3] https://openqa.debian.net/group_overview/14
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Please wait a while, a few other changes are pending and then a new
release can be made.
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* Currently in progress: finalise arm64 support (native and cross-build)
* Currently in progress: firmware support in live-build (it looks like
/usr-merge affects the location of the firmware files)
* See the TODO page [10]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org
including documentation)
* Unfinished: pre-release work-around for #1051607 (Calamares
installation on UEFI Secure Boot systems fails to boot after installation)
Work to be done:
* Visit to the MiniDebCamp in Hamburg [6]
* See the TODO page [7]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.d
Hello Vladimir,
On 18/02/2024 14:44, Vladimir Smelhaus wrote:
Dne 18. 02. 24 v 13:38 Roland Clobus napsal(a):
If I understand you correctly, you perform a live boot from the disk
that you want to erase. And then (without 'toram') you can't format
it, because you need access
Hello Vladimir,
On 18/02/2024 11:49, Vladimir Smelhaus wrote:
Dne 18. 02. 24 v 11:04 Roland Clobus napsal(a):
Why do you need to have filesystem.squashfs in RAM? If you boot from a
USB or DVD/CD-ROM medium, the filesystem.squashfs resides there, and
there is no need to have a copy in RAM
changes takes a lot of time.
With the possibility to boot from USB-pens, I would assume that the need
for 'toram' had decreased, since these are much faster than CD-ROMs.
Therefore your patch has not reached the top of the todo list (yet).
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
have your own set of packages in the live image, I would
recommend to build you own. See [1] and [2].
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1]
https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
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way to handle the
foreign .deb file
Since the 1password.deb file properly registers within the package
management system, this ticket becomes a 'works for me'.
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Roland Clobus
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Hmm. My first reply didn't make it, resending...
Forwarded Message
Subject: Re: Bug#1062641: live-build Removes User Packages Installed via
Hooks
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:41:42 +0100
From: Roland Clobus
To: Arszilla , 1062...@bugs.debian.org
Hello Arszilla,
On 02/02/2024
On 04/02/2024 17:41, Roland Clobus wrote:
...
echo 'deb [arch=amd64
signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/1password-archive-keyring.gpg]
https://downloads.1password.com/linux/debian/amd64 stable main' >
config/includes.chroot_before_packages/etc/apt/sources.list.d/1password.list
And I'm cert
] shows you all options that you can
configure there.
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Roland Clobus
[1]
https://sources.debian.org/src/live-config/11.0.4/frontend/init-config.sh/?hl=6#L6
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lb build
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are missing from your update. One may just be
improving a simple explanation. Plus I have a question.
Roland Clobus wrote:
Reproducible status:
* All major desktops build reproducibly with bullseye, bookworm,
trixie and sid ...
** ... provided they are built for a second time within the same
for February 2024)
* Many other things. See the TODO page [4]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/merge_requests/337
[3] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/merge_requests/334
[4
.
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e building (reproducibly) again. The
tests in OpenQA also look good.
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Roland Clobus
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On 04/01/2024 14:58, Roland Clobus wrote:
Single line summary: Very near the finishing line
Reproducible status:
* All major desktops build reproducibly with bullseye, bookworm, trixie
and sid ...
** ... provided they are built for a second time within the same DAK run
(i.e. 6 hours
2024)
* Many other things. See the TODO page [8]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/merge_requests/331
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/merge_requests/332
https
rescue mode (Advanced install options ... | Graphical
installer ... | Rescue mode)
Please report back if any option works (or fails to work)
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conference 2022: with kiwi it is possible to build live images for
Debian as well, and IIRC one of boot steps involves filling the
remainder of the USB-stick with a writeable partition. I can look up
further details, if you are interested.
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Roland Clobus
[1] https
ersion is in the definition of the
environment variable LIVE_BUILD which should point to the root of the
git clone.
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uration and additional sendmail
does not per default send mails outside its (on live CDs) unconfigured
domain.
So the short answer is: no, you cannot report a bug from inside the live
CD without additional configuration work.
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user
e live-build
configuration? If we can manage before the 9th December, the fix can be
present in the next liveCD for 12.3.
[snip issue 2, to be answered in a separate mail]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00733.html
<https://lists.debian.o
BIOS, not via UEFI. So I don't have efivars mounted
on the host system, and therefore there are no attempts inside the
chroot to mount or unmount efivarsfs.
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Can you provide more information about the system that you are using
to build the image on?
2) Could you also try to run the latest git version (see [1])
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
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your reply to the mailing list:
debian-live@lists.debian.org
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User request: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2023/11/msg4.html
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Hello Ruben,
Please log your support request on the link above.
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Roland Clobus
On 08/11/2023 13:28
test isn't written with optional kernel options in might.
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
PS: The other system information is from my regular PC, and not applicable to
this bug report.
-- Package-specific info:
-- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy
of the live-build image
** Fix the few remaining reproducible issues in time before 12.3.0
(planned for early December 2023)
* Many other things. Moved to the TODO page [10]
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] I once wrote that the images
. The release
team is doing a great job on release day, but verifying all images takes
a lot of time.
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takes too long to start and I suspect 1G of
total memory is really not enough for it these days!)
Currently I'm trying to get the right combo of modules in the initrd to
get it booting on the X13s as well.
Please also take a look at the work by Thore Sommer in [1].
With kind regards,
Roland
is not explicitly removed from the code, but it is not
tested. Keeping up with 9 images for amd64 alone is a big enough
maintenance task, unless you volunteer to monitor all i386 images
Then you will be able to determine the release date.
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he questions in the
debian-installer (in the boot menu), but that requires some non-trivial
work.
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Roland Clobus
[1]
https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html#539
On 22/06/2023 10:36, Narcis Garcia wrote:
Thank you Rola
Package: live-config
Version: 11.0.4
Severity: wishlist
Note to self:
When running an older live image without persistence (e.g. sid), the unattended
upgrades package will:
1) consume network bandwidth by downloading updated packages
2) consume memory due to the overlay filesystem
3) disrupt
ocated.
I'm booting into the live environment without issues.
I also tried the installer in BIOS mode, and (after reporting that it
enters low-memory mode) it was able to run until the partition step,
then I aborted the installer.
I'm therefore not able to reproduce your case.
With kind re
UEFI mode and consequently
make Secure Boot activable ?
The default options to 'lb config' are sufficient.
Some options, which are already enabling UEFI and secure boot by default:
* --bootloaders grub-efi
* --uefi-secure-boot auto
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Descriptio
images all work without additional parameters when
booting with secure boot, as shown in openQA [1].
However, you cannot enforce from the boot medium that secure boot is to
be used, that is configured on the computer itself.
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://openqa.debian.net
, but it is not
tested. Keeping up with 9 images for amd64 alone is a big enough
maintenance task, unless you volunteer to monitor all i386 images :-)
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Roland Clobus
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, but they are not
activated, which results in a silly GNOME welcome screen [4]
* Bug triaging for issues reported against live-build [3] and
debian-live [8]
* Many other things. See the TODO page [6]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https
be downloaded.
I tried with:
lb config --distribution bookworm --debian-installer-distribution
bookworm-backports --debian-installer live
Do you have a full configuration available? I'm currently unable to
reproduce the issue.
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need to change the live-build code.
So I consider this bug report handled. Even though not trivial, it is
possible to create a live image without systemd code.
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/merge_requests/257
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'Data preparer id' field and the .disk/mkisofs
file refer to the current live-build version.
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Roland Clobus
--
[1] /home/roland/git.nobackup/live-build/test/rebuild.sh --configuration
standard --debian-version bookworm --debian-version-number 12.1.0
--timestamp archive
a look at the 'ext4' issue (#1032408) soon, let's keep the
topic for each bug report separate.
In general, building a bookworm image, typically requires either a
bookworm+1 basic image, or a fresh git repo.
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug
are using Debian 12.1 to build an
image. Unfortunately such fixes cannot flow back into Debian stable, so
for building Debian 12.1 images you'll have to use the git version of
live-build for now. See the instructions at [2].
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1]
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team
Hello Andi,
On 25/06/2023 21:33, Andreas B. Mundt wrote:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:16:44PM +0200, Roland Clobus wrote:
On 21/06/2023 20:57, Andreas B. Mundt wrote:
with the bookworm live images, the format of the .disk/info file on
the iso images has been modified ...
Now that my
:
https://get.debian.org/cdimage/
The live images for Debian 12 are here:
https://get.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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by default?
Yes, the non-free-firmware packages are included per default
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[1] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build
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On 04/07/2023 22:32, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
On 2023-07-04, David A. Wheeler wrote:
On Jul 2, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Roland Clobus wrote:
Reproducible status:
* All major desktops build reproducibly with bullseye, bookworm, trixie and sid
How close are things to having the *released* versions
[5]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037295
[3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2023/06/msg00017.html
[4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2023/06/msg00023.html
[5] https
tps://openqa.debian.net/group_overview/14
- Select the latest Build_sid_kde image
- If 'gnome_live-build-apps_startstop' shows 'kparted' as a failed
test, the fix is not working/active
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[1] https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-config/-/merge_requests/13
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, probably all desktops' variants are affected
GNOME, KDE and LXQT are affected.
I've proposed a fix for Calamares in #1025552, which is based on your
proposal in this ticket.
If it is accepted there, this ticket can be regarded as a duplicate.
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Roland Clobus
e list, that it offers a search box.
If you want, you could report a bug against the gnome package for the
welcome screen (I haven't looked up the name).
Adding more languages more visibly, is on the to-do list.
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did you follow, when you noticed that 'cryptsetup-initramfs'
is missing?
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[1] https://openqa.debian.net/group_overview/14
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[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/
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that this copy will consume both time and memory.
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Hello Cyril,
On 19/05/2023 00:59, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Speaking as someone who happen{ed,s} to come across live-build things for
unrelated reasons:
Roland Clobus (2023-05-18):
I've implemented a workaround for the live images at [1].
As a result, the xfwm4 desktop manager is now the only
aster/content/2023/debian-bookworm-live-images.md
Thank you for preparing the announcement.
I would suggest a few changes, could you grant me access rights, or
should I clone your clone of Publicity/Bits?
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Hello Holger,
On 17/03/2023 21:17, Holger Wansing wrote:
Is there still interest to get the live-manual built on official Debian
machines / included on the Debian website?
Yes.
In this case, I would vote for using the same mechanism as currently used
for all the other documents under
Hello Jonathan,
On 20/03/2023 18:51, Jonathan Carter wrote:
...
For now this /does/ work. But we do end up with 740M of uncompressed
firmware on the image, so at the very least I think we should circle
back to this for Debian 13.
Luckily, the firmware files *are* compressed, in the .deb
Hello Jonathan,
On 20/03/2023 12:59, Jonathan Carter wrote:
On 2023/03/20 09:11, Roland Clobus wrote:
This weekend I've written the missing parts, non-free-firmware images
are now generated by default by live-build, and the ISO images are
still bit-for-bit reproducible.
How do you currently
ges; I expect there might be some more
work needed there yet, but I'd love to be proven wrong. :-)
This weekend I've written the missing parts, non-free-firmware images
are now generated by default by live-build, and the ISO images are still
bit-for-bit reproducible.
With kind regards,
Rola
with the timestamps of
files that it just has generated [4]
* Priority is now very low, since the package is not used in live images
any more
** This section will be removed from my next report
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Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https
mine which
package is pulling in the firmware packages.
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PS: the 'lb config' command does not need to be run as root.
On 04/02/2023 15:13, Witold Baryluk wrote:
Package: live-build
Version: 1:20230131
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: witold.bary...
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1003449
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1009196
[4]
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/co
-line
installation [A5]
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[A1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/11/msg00221.html
[A2] https://salsa.debian.org/images-team/live-setup/-/merge_requests/2
[A3]
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/localechooser/-/merge_requests/7
[A4]
https
state so, and I'll focus on other topics :-)
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the snapshot service instead of deb.debian.org also for
long-term reproducibility reasons. deb.debian.org-based live images can
only be reproduced within the same DAK-sync (every 6 hours)
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Use disorderfs
* Transfer the special features of the (now disabled) live-wrapper live
images to live-build
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1003449
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi
/index.en.html
The scripts can be highly customised, e.g. to contain custom kernels
(see 8.2.10)
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1003449
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1009196
[4]
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit
a fix.
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'failsafe' option.
Which version of live-build are you using?
> I am using Ryzen 3 machine...
Do you need all these 3 options for a normal live boot?
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'Finish'.
Look at 'Overview', 'Hypervisor Details', 'Firmware': Select either
'BIOS' for legacy boot using isolinux, 'UEFI' for non-secure boot or
'UEFI..OVMF_CODE_4M.ms.fd' for UEFI secure boot.
Both UEFI modes use grub.
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Also take a look at the script 'rebuild.sh' in the test folder of the
git repository
(https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/blob/master/test/rebuild.sh)
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However, given that you are not the first to wonder about the amount of
localisation packages, this bug report could be considered to become a
feature request: have the installer(s) ask which locales you would like
to keep.
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ure more variations
* Use disorderfs
* Transfer the special features of the (now disabled) live-wrapper live
images to live-build
* Start building official live-images again [6][8]
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] ht
]
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1003449
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1009196
[4]
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit
hnical audience).
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[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1018281
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the interface of
'lb' at a later moment.
I have not added LB_ISO_VOLUME: the default value contains the magic
sequence '@ISOVOLUME_TS@' which resolves to a timestamp. This would need
additional handling. The timestamp is available in all its parts anyway.
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PS: To use
ant me to try, I’m happy to do so some
morning this week
Thanks again for taking so much time.
Could you attach the output of the 'sudo efibootmgr -v ' command and
also of 'lsusb'?
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[1] https://github.com/rescatux/live-build/
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: In the boot menu, do you see 'BIOS mode' or 'UEFI
installer menu'
* Run the installer from the boot menu, instead of starting Calamares
from the live environment
* Remove USB
* Reboot
* Report back: Do you have the same issue or is it different?
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on the German translation.
Should you find unclear wording or ambiguity in the English text, please
write to this list. The original text can then be updated.
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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1003449
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1009196
[4]
https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit
ebian Wiki pages, Debian Local
Groups.
I have created a small example of a Debian Desktop live system.
https://salsa.debian.org/StefanKropp/debian-desktop-live-system/
The 'Welcome to Debian' is a separate topic. I'll respond later.
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Roland Clobus
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) it will switch back to live-build again.
Most importantly, the automated testing of the live images will reduce
the stress of the release team at release day. (See
https://openqa.debian.net/group_overview/14)
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
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e-build,
which refers to buster, which is currently oldstable. Will you be aiming
for bookworm? (You could use a single repository live-build-config, with
several branches)
The image for Grub (used for UEFI boot) is the default image. Is that
intentional?
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
PS: I
'normal' and
'live' hooks will be applied for all cases.
The only difference is for '.container' hooks, which was only recently
added.
I would recommend to use the 'normal' folder for your hooks. That's
where most hooks are located.
Use the numerical prefixes to determine the order.
With
Hello all,
On 29/06/2022 23:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 11:47:31PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Steve McIntyre, le mar. 25 juil. 2017 00:10:24 +0100, a ecrit:
As discussed on
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2017/04/msg00130.html
it would be useful to have
images
* Transfer the special features of the (now disabled) live-wrapper live
images to live-build
* Start building official live-images again [11]
With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls/LiveImages
[4]
https://salsa.debian.org/qa/openqa/openqa-tests
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