Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-02-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> Thinking about this some more, maybe we could attempt this, backporting > security > fixes from MariaDB 10.1 or forward-porting them from MariaDB 5.5 (still > supported until April 2020). That way we don't force any 10.0 -> 10.1 > migration > on our users (though MySQL 5.5 users will still

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-02-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Otto, On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:32:24PM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Thinking about this some more, maybe we could attempt this, backporting > > security > > fixes from MariaDB 10.1 or forward-porting them from MariaDB 5.5 (still > > supported until April 2020). That way we don't force

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-02-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 03/01/2019 11:20, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 03/01/2019 10:40, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> Hello! >> >> to 3. tammik. 2019 klo 3.40 Robie Basak (robie.ba...@canonical.com) >> kirjoitti: >>> >>> Hi Otto and the LTS team, >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:50:34AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-01-07 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi If we can avoid migration I think that is the safest approach. I just had a failed upgrade (in current stable) and I'm guessing it can be a problem in other cases too. Migrating through .sql files works, but please note that this can be a very disk and time consuming process. For small

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-01-03 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On 2019-01-03 10:40, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: You can always cross-migrate via logical database dumps as .sql files instead of in-place binary files. This is not guaranteed to work, and you need to take special care with mysqldump and mysql options for such migration dumps. For instance, if

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-01-03 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 03/01/2019 10:40, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello! > > to 3. tammik. 2019 klo 3.40 Robie Basak (robie.ba...@canonical.com) kirjoitti: >> >> Hi Otto and the LTS team, >> >> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:50:34AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >>> I think that is *if* makes sense to engineer some

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-01-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! to 3. tammik. 2019 klo 3.40 Robie Basak (robie.ba...@canonical.com) kirjoitti: > > Hi Otto and the LTS team, > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:50:34AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > I think that is *if* makes sense to engineer some automatic upgrade path in > > an LTS release, then it

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2019-01-02 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Otto and the LTS team, On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:50:34AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I think that is *if* makes sense to engineer some automatic upgrade path in > an LTS release, then it would be to introduce MariaDB 10.1 into Jessie. If this is explicitly opted in to by users then I

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-31 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello Debian LTS team! I think that is *if* makes sense to engineer some automatic upgrade path in an LTS release, then it would be to introduce MariaDB 10.1 into Jessie. Upgrading from MySQL 5.5 and MariaDB 10.0 to MariaDB 10.1 is pretty safe, and the maintenance period of MariaDB 10.1 would

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-29 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! pe 28. jouluk. 2018 klo 9.27 Jan Ingvoldstad (jan-debian-lts-2...@oyet.no) kirjoitti: > > On 2018-12-27 18:51, Lars Tangvald wrote: > > > Upgrading to 5.6 would be less risky than MariaDB 10.1, but it's a > > similar sort of risk. > > I don't know what the risk with switching to MariaDB

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-27 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On 2018-12-27 18:51, Lars Tangvald wrote: Upgrading to 5.6 would be less risky than MariaDB 10.1, but it's a similar sort of risk. I don't know what the risk with switching to MariaDB 10.1 would be, but as a general principle, MariaDB lags behind (the already annoyingly delayed) Oracle

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-27 Thread Lars Tangvald
Hi, On 19.12.2018 17:01, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Emilio, thanks for bringing up this issue on the LTS list. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:49:57AM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: MySQL 5.5 should be EOL this month if nothing has changed, although I don't see an announcement on [1] yet.

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! ke 19. jouluk. 2018 klo 18.01 Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org) kirjoitti: > > Also note that mariadb 10.0 is EOL in three months[2]. > > I think this rules out mariadb 10.0 as a sensible upgrade path here. > (Also, switching from mysql to mariadb in an LTS security upload???) Do we

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Emilio, thanks for bringing up this issue on the LTS list. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:49:57AM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > MySQL 5.5 should be EOL this month if nothing has changed, although I don't > see > an announcement on [1] yet. Maybe it will be published next month when the

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-17 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 10:49:57 +0100 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > MySQL 5.5 should be EOL this month if nothing has changed, although I > don't see an announcement on [1] yet. Maybe it will be published next > month when the next CPU (critical patch update) is released. Norvald, > do you know

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-12-17 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, On 22/05/2018 07:10, Lars Tangvald wrote: > > > On 05/21/2018 03:22 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: > First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the > security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-05-22 Thread Lars Tangvald
On 05/21/2018 03:22 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in December (it was

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in December (it was first released December 15, 2010, and we have 8 year

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-05-19 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 22/01/18 16:35, Markus Koschany wrote: > Hi, > > Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: >> Hi, >> >> First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the >> security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. >> >> MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-02-07 Thread Lars Tangvald
Hi, On 01/23/2018 10:32 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: Am 23.01.2018 um 11:41 schrieb Lars Tangvald: Hi, On 01/22/2018 04:35 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: [...] I also think it makes sense to take a smaller step and upgrade from 5.5 to 5.6. Are there any known issues with 5.6 or can you share any

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-24 Thread Lars Tangvald
On 01/24/2018 08:02 AM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:41:57AM +0100, Lars Tangvald wrote: I can't find much of anything that has changed from 5.5 to 5.6 in terms of default behavior, except for NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION being the default sql_mode

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-23 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On 2018-01-24 08:02, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: That sounds far too disruptive for an LTS; better declare announce the server part of mysql (where all the vulnerabilities apply) as unsupported in advance and in December change the package to only build the libmysqlclient parts. The client library

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-23 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:41:57AM +0100, Lars Tangvald wrote: > I can't find much of anything that has changed from 5.5 to 5.6 in terms of > default behavior, except for NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION being the default > sql_mode >

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-23 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 23.01.2018 um 11:41 schrieb Lars Tangvald: > Hi, > > On 01/22/2018 04:35 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: [...] >> I also think it makes sense to take a smaller step and upgrade from 5.5 >> to 5.6. Are there any known issues with 5.6 or can you share any >> information about expected regressions

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-23 Thread Lars Tangvald
Hi, On 01/22/2018 04:35 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: Hi, Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: Hi, First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in December

Re: MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-22 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi, Am 22.01.2018 um 13:42 schrieb Lars Tangvald: > Hi, > > First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the > security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. > > MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in December (it was first released > December 15, 2010,

MySQL 5.5 EOL before Debian 8 LTS ends

2018-01-22 Thread Lars Tangvald
Hi, First off, thanks for handling the 5.5.59 update for Wheezy. I had the security announcement date mixed up so picked it up too late, sorry. MySQL 5.5 is expected to be EOL in December (it was first released December 15, 2010, and we have 8 year security support), while Jessie LTS is