Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2928T012303+0100, Colin Watson wrote: I couldn't see it in policy, which was why I weakened my original statement. If build-time dependencies are specified, it must be possible to build the package and produce working binaries on a system with the build-essential packages

Re: Pipes

2000-09-28 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 03:08:20PM +0200, Hans-Christian Armingeon wrote: how can I put stderr in a file with a simple pipe? 21 | cat -- Alexander Kotelnikov Saint-Petersburg, Russia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hi, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the resulting package right now is ~3.6 Mb. is that

Re: Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: Hi, Hi Yves, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the

RE: Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Sep-2000 Yves Arrouye wrote: Hi, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the resulting

Re: NMU and ./configure - library upgrades.

2000-09-28 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
A similar issue that bothered me when I had a dialup connection was the constant upgrade of libraries; 1. Developer lives on the edge and usually has the latest libs installed 2. Package becomes dependant upon bleedingedge version of libs -- BUT it is not really needed, for example gtk1.2.1

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2928T120641+0100, Colin Watson wrote: Does "consistent" mean "internally consistent" or "consistent among all builds of that package"? In this case: the latter. It was an explicit goal when the policy amendment was being drafted. Maybe somebody would like to rewrite it for clarity?

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2928T012303+0100, Colin Watson wrote: I couldn't see it in policy, which was why I weakened my original statement. If build-time dependencies are specified, it must be possible to build the package and produce working binaries on a system with the build-essential packages

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:59:30AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On 2928T092438+1200, Michael Beattie wrote: But, if the user has something *extra* installed, that the configure script picks up and uses, because it is optional for the package build... you do the math. That's

removing and adding dynamically assigned system users

2000-09-28 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi, i am currently building a package which needs a system user. so i use dynamically assigend system users (range 100-999). i install it with adduser --system etc. now, when a package is deinstalled, when is the user removed from the database ? when postrm remove is called or is it postrm purge?

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On 27 Sep 2000, Itai Zukerman wrote: For this situation, I would suggest that we start to be really strict, and use chroot jails for *all* builds. It may resolve the situation, but I would much more elgeant, if it would not necessary, wouldn't it? I support the chroot jail concept, but in

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Colin Watson
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2928T012303+0100, Colin Watson wrote: I couldn't see it in policy, which was why I weakened my original statement. If build-time dependencies are specified, it must be possible to build the package and produce working binaries on

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:52:30PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: On 27 Sep 2000, Itai Zukerman wrote: For this situation, I would suggest that we start to be really strict, and use chroot jails for *all* builds. It may resolve the situation, but I would much more elgeant, if it

Pipes

2000-09-28 Thread Hans-Christian Armingeon
Hi evrybody, how can I put stderr in a file with a simple pipe? Johnny

Re: Pipes

2000-09-28 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 03:08:20PM +0200, Hans-Christian Armingeon wrote: Hi evrybody, how can I put stderr in a file with a simple pipe? foo 2errfile.txt -- Tom Cato Amundsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU Solfege - free eartraining, http://www.gnu.org/software/solfege/

Re: Pipes

2000-09-28 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 03:08:20PM +0200, Hans-Christian Armingeon wrote: how can I put stderr in a file with a simple pipe? 21 | cat -- Alexander Kotelnikov Saint-Petersburg, Russia

Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hi, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the resulting package right now is ~3.6 Mb. is that

Re: Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: Hi, Hi Yves, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the

RE: Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Sep-2000 Yves Arrouye wrote: Hi, I've been away from the Debian project for a couple years, but I'm now able to come back and start packaging things again. I wonder if there is still a size limit on packages? I want to package the ICU Unicode and I18N library, and the resulting

RE: Is there a size limit for a package?

2000-09-28 Thread Yves Arrouye
considering we have packages like mozilla which top 10mb Ugh! Dinosaurs are heavy, aren't they? That said, if all of the contents are not useful to all people, perhaps it should be split. Every time this package is updated, its users must download 4mb's. I know that. I'm working with

Re: NMU and ./configure - library upgrades.

2000-09-28 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
A similar issue that bothered me when I had a dialup connection was the constant upgrade of libraries; 1. Developer lives on the edge and usually has the latest libs installed 2. Package becomes dependant upon bleedingedge version of libs -- BUT it is not really needed, for example gtk1.2.1

Re: NMU and ./configure

2000-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2928T120641+0100, Colin Watson wrote: Does consistent mean internally consistent or consistent among all builds of that package? In this case: the latter. It was an explicit goal when the policy amendment was being drafted. Maybe somebody would like to rewrite it for clarity? :-) In