Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:56 +1000, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Howdy mentors, I'd like to submit patches for a couple of packages that currently use hand-rolled debian/rules files. Are the packages in question buggy, or you just find hand rolled files aesthetically

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 May 2005 12:07:01 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This best practice fails miserably if the maintainer is not always perfectly responsive. As soon as the maintainer goes on vacation (or MIA) and gets a security hole or RC bug in his package, the more nonstandard their

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj) writes: I find myself agreeing, except that I feel that way as soon as people get away from tried and tested POSIX commands and dpkg-dev. There are far more people who are competent with cp, install, mv, make, and other common POSIX

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050517T120043-0400, Joey Hess wrote: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: If I were to receive a bug report, say wishlist severity, containing a patch that rewrites one of my packages' debian/rules to use debhelper, I would be very upset: it would feel like an insult toward my style of

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:16:02AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I could, but in charity I shall not, point to cases where the helper packages are used as a crutch, with the developer having no idea what was going on , and copying rules files around, engaging in cargo cult

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Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I appreciate the build system for certain red hat and suse packages not being arcane and distribution specific when I try and incorporate changes made in packages on those distributions, and I tend to return the favour. Grep through the rpm book for all the %

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I prefer to have these command (usually, mv, cp, gzip, etc) explicitly present, so one does not have to go looking through the library to guess what is being done. Wow, here it is 2005, a whole 8 years since debhelper was introduced and Manoj still doesn't

Renew RFS for cyrus2courier

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Debian Mentors, I would like to renew my request for sponsorship of the cyrus2courier program I recently packaged: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2005/05/msg00245.html -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: depending on a customized library

2005-05-18 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/18/05, Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The configure flags for compiling libgc are: --disable-threads --disable-shared --enable-cplusplus (obviously with --disable-threads toggled for the different tests). I'm also running on a single-processor machine. Not a hyperthreaded Xeon,

Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I am interested in becoming a DD. I have asked for sponsorship for a couple of package I created. chora2, which fulfills an outstanding RFP, was graciously sponsored by Anibal (Thanks, Anibal!). It is now in the NEW queue. My question is what is the next step? I figured that this was probably

RFS: plash (the Principle of Least Authority shell)

2005-05-18 Thread Mark Seaborn
Hi, I'm looking for a sponsor for my project, Plash: Plash (the Principle of Least Authority shell) is a replacement Unix shell which lets the user run Linux programs with access only to the files and directories that they need to run. The syntax is similar to Bash, but with some

Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Packaging ACT-R]

2005-05-18 Thread François-Denis Gonthier
Hello debian-mentors, I would like to know what I should do about this email I received from the maintainers of a upstream package I would like to package. I understand his reasons for not supporting third-party package. I won't pull their arms into changing the way they release updates. I

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Ben Finney
On 18-May-2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I guess that at some point I need to do the identy verification step. How does that go? Do I locate some DDs near me and drop them an email and see if they are willing to sign my gpg key? As suggested by the documents you've been reading, your

Re: depending on a customized library

2005-05-18 Thread Hubert Chan
Michael == Michael K Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael On 5/18/05, Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The configure flags for compiling libgc are: --disable-threads --disable-shared --enable-cplusplus (obviously with --disable-threads toggled for the different tests). I'm also

Re: debian/rules: Moving to debhelper or cdbs

2005-05-18 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 18 May 2005 08:06, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I find myself agreeing, except that I feel that way as soon as people get away from tried and tested POSIX commands and dpkg-dev. There are far more people who are competent with cp, install, mv, make, and other common POSIX

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread martin f krafft
Among the first steps: make sure you can sign emails properly. Your signature failed to verify on all your posts. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'`

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* martin f krafft [Thu, 19 May 2005 01:19:02 +0200]: Among the first steps: make sure you can sign emails properly. Your signature failed to verify on all your posts. Check your side, martin, verified fine here. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Wed, 18 May 2005 18:03:23 -0400]: I guess that at some point I need to do the identy verification step. How does that go? Do I locate some DDs near me and drop them an email and see if they are willing to sign my gpg key? Yes, that's right. You can check

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Ben Finney
On 19-May-2005, martin f krafft wrote: Among the first steps: make sure you can sign emails properly. Your signature failed to verify on all your posts. All signatures in this thread so far have verified fine for me. -- \ Sunday School: A prison in which children do penance for the |

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Richard A. Hecker
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I am interested in becoming a DD. I have asked for sponsorship for a couple of package I created. chora2, which fulfills an outstanding RFP, was graciously sponsored by Anibal (Thanks, Anibal!). It is now in the NEW queue. My question is what is the next step? I

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Richard A. Hecker
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I guess that at some point I need to do the identy verification step. How does that go? Do I locate some DDs near me and drop them an email and see if they are willing to sign my gpg key? One of the links I referred to earlier is http://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Richard A. Hecker wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I am interested in becoming a DD. I have asked for sponsorship for a couple of package I created. chora2, which fulfills an outstanding RFP, was graciously sponsored by Anibal (Thanks, Anibal!). It is now in the NEW queue. My question

Packaging ACT-R - Answers from upstream

2005-05-18 Thread François-Denis Gonthier
Hello debian-mentors, I would like to know what I should do about this email I received from the maintainers of a upstream package I would like to package. I understand his reasons for not supporting third-party package.  I won't pull their arms into changing the way they release updates.  I

Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Greetings DDs, I am interested in becoming a new DD myself and am in need of having my gpg key signed. Your addresses are all listed as being in the Ohio area on the page the Adeodato referred me to below. If any or all of you would be willing to meet me to sign my key, I would appreciate it.

Re: RFS - cyrus2courier utility to convert mailboxes

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:10:24PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: A sponsorship for this package would be much appreciated. Package name: cyrus2courier License: BSD (w/ annoying advertising clause) Description: converts Cyrus mailbox format to Maildir

Re: Packaging ACT-R - Answers from upstream

2005-05-18 Thread Ben Finney
On 18-May-2005, François-Denis Gonthier wrote: I would like to know what I should do about this email I received from the maintainers of a upstream package I would like to package. The topic of other parties redistributing one's software can be touchy. Above all, remain polite and calm in your

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Re: Question about next step

2005-05-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.05.19.0137 +0200]: Check your side, martin, verified fine here. also sprach Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.05.19.0211 +0200]: All signatures in this thread so far have verified fine for me. That's curious. My setup works, and it has