Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello Daniel, Le lundi 19 décembre 2005 à 08:24 +0100, Daniel Holbach a écrit : - team maintenance with SVN is more and more popular, and a good web interface above a SVN repo of Debian packages would help all those teams I'd be in favour or a bzr solution, not because of random

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello Raphaël, hello everybody else, Am Montag, den 19.12.2005, 09:06 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: Who are the members of the Launchpad team ? you should be able to reach them via launchpad at lists canonical com. I agree that integration with Launchpad would be interesting, but as long

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/12/05 at 17:19 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [ Sorry for the crosspost, but the subject is of interest to many people ] Hello everybody, following the last discussion at the Debian-QA meeting on Darmstadt, it appears that the proposal called Collaborative maintenance is of generic

changes to upstream sources/HOWTO patch

2005-12-19 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi Mentors, I've noticed that some packages contain a debian/patches-dir and I'm curious how this works. I think I need to patch one of my packages myself so I'm looking for some documentation. The Debian policy [1] does not really help since the part about changes to upstream sources is quite

Re: changes to upstream sources/HOWTO patch

2005-12-19 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:56:24AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: Can someone explain to me how to apply patches to upstream sources the right way or point me to an appropriate document? `apt-get install dpatch` You've got some examples in /usr/share/doc/dpatch/ then. You can also take a look

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le lundi 19 décembre 2005 à 09:44 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : First, technical issues: * Chances are very low that you will get Ubuntu people to use svn instead of bzr. bzr is the official VCS in Ubuntu, it is written in Python, the official language in Ubuntu. Making Ubuntu people use

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Christoph Haas
Morning, On Sunday 18 December 2005 17:19, Raphael Hertzog wrote: following the last discussion at the Debian-QA meeting on Darmstadt, it appears that the proposal called Collaborative maintenance is of generic interest : - for Debian sponsors and Debian mentors - for QA which may use the

Re: changes to upstream sources/HOWTO patch

2005-12-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:56:24AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: I've noticed that some packages contain a debian/patches-dir and I'm curious how this works. debian/patches is used by dpatch, the necessary information should be available in man dpatch. Can someone explain to me how to apply

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le lundi 19 décembre 2005 à 11:04 +0100, Christoph Haas a écrit : This infrastructure is seriously needed in Debian because: - team maintenance with SVN is more and more popular, and a good web interface above a SVN repo of Debian packages would help all those teams If there is a

RFS: billard-gl -- 3D billiards game

2005-12-19 Thread Thierry Reding
Hi, I'm looking for a sponsor for billard-gl. The new version, which can be found at[0] does no longer depend on xlibs-dev. The package builds clean in pbuilder and has no lintian or linda warnings. Cheers, Thierry [0]: http://www.dotsec.net/~beatle/debian/billard-gl/ signature.asc

Re: changes to upstream sources/HOWTO patch

2005-12-19 Thread Damyan Ivanov
gregor herrmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:56:24AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: I've noticed that some packages contain a debian/patches-dir and I'm curious how this works. debian/patches is used by dpatch, the necessary information should be available in man dpatch. Can someone

get-orig-source to be called from any directory?

2005-12-19 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hello, I'm trying to add a 'get-orig-source' target to my debian/rules file, and it looks like this: get-orig-source: debian/export-freemind-cvs.sh 0.8.0+01 FM-0-8-0 It works quite fine, but the Debian policy manual specifies under [1] that This target may be invoked in any directory,

Re: get-orig-source to be called from any directory?

2005-12-19 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: Hello, I'm trying to add a 'get-orig-source' target to my debian/rules file, and it looks like this: get-orig-source: debian/export-freemind-cvs.sh 0.8.0+01 FM-0-8-0 It works quite fine, but the Debian policy manual specifies under [1] that This

Re: changes to upstream sources/HOWTO patch

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:56:24AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: Can someone explain to me how to apply patches to upstream sources the right way or point me to an appropriate document? `apt-get install dpatch` You've got some examples in

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Stephan Hermann
hi, On Monday 19 December 2005 11:17, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Actually, the Ubuntu people doing REVU didn't event think of using a VCS because they are handling uploads of source packages in their system. Adding a VCS layer has some advantages however : traceability of contributions from an

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mo, 2005-12-19 at 15:38 +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Monday 19 December 2005 11:17, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Actually, the Ubuntu people doing REVU didn't event think of using a VCS because they are handling uploads of source packages in their system. Adding a VCS layer has some

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Stephan Hermann wrote: What you are suggesting is already there. It's called hct and it's keybuks child. So, seeing this in an environment of Ubuntu: I think (or I hope) hct will be included in launchpad, and then we will include some parts of REVU3 (I hope :)) into

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi, first of all big thanks to Raphael for your great proposal! I'd also be more than happy to join the project. Am Montag 19 Dezember 2005 16:25 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: Thanks. I agree with the Ubuntu side of this discussion that dealing with non-distributed svn would be a pain; I don't

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Stefan Potyra wrote: I'd object to this, since one of the goals would be to make it easy to review packages. So basically you'd need exactly one central place, where the current version of a sourcepackage can be found, and can be reviewed. However I'm not quite sure

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On So, 2005-12-18 at 17:19 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: following the last discussion at the Debian-QA meeting on Darmstadt, it appears that the proposal called Collaborative maintenance is of generic interest : - for Debian sponsors and Debian mentors - for QA which may use the

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, this makes sense too. I'd like to have wrappers for doing things locally : - download source package from the good repository (without having to type a huge URL) - run most checks on it (pbuilder, piuparts, lintian, ...) - display analysis -

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mo, 2005-12-19 at 11:17 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I don't want to change how Ubuntu works. I just want to find a decent way for Debian to let external contributors integrate their work within Debian and in particular for Ubuntu developers. Because it's in the interest of Ubuntu

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Mike Hommey
Am Sonntag, den 18.12.2005, 17:19 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: This infrastructure is seriously needed in Debian because: - team maintenance with SVN is more and more popular, and a good web interface above a SVN repo of Debian packages would help all those teams I'd be in

Re: Creating a randomized cron entry

2005-12-19 Thread Florian Weimer
For future reference, here's what I've implemented in debsecan: There is a script, /usr/sbin/debsecan-create-cron, which creates a file /etc/cron.d/debsecan (if it does not exist yet). The file contains a line # AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED, and if this line is found in the file, it will be removed

Re: Creating a randomized cron entry

2005-12-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joey Hess: (As a more desktopish user, I'd rather expect something that lives in the toolbar and pops up an alert when there is a new security hole/fix, but that's beyond what debsecan does right now.) Nice idea. Unfortunately, you cannot create a RSS feed unless you know the locally

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Ben Finney
On 19-Dec-2005, Stefan Potyra wrote: Am Montag 19 Dezember 2005 16:25 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: Thanks. I agree with the Ubuntu side of this discussion that dealing with non-distributed svn would be a pain I'd object to this, since one of the goals would be to make it easy to review

new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi all, I've just finisched packaging Crypt::Simple perl module, you can download from http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/debian/libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1_all.deb . I'd like some advice about the package, something to correct / add (I know, man page missing) and some other packaging tips. Is

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In other words, a distributed VCS allows all parties to manage their own repositories equally, and the project can nominate one of them the official central repository, without impacting everyone's ability to communicate changes between other repositories.

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Sandro Tosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I've just finisched packaging Crypt::Simple perl module, you can download from http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/debian/libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1_all.deb . Is the source package available? It's hard to judge packaging and impossible to

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Sandro Tosi
Is the source package available? It's hard to judge packaging and impossible to sponsor a package from just the deb. here is the archive from where i generate the deb: matrixhasu.altervista.org/debian/libcrypt-simple-perl.tar.bz2 I'd like some advice about the package, something to correct

Re: RFS: billard-gl -- 3D billiards game

2005-12-19 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 01:29:09PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote: I'm looking for a sponsor for billard-gl. The new version, which can be found at[0] does no longer depend on xlibs-dev. The package builds clean in pbuilder and has no lintian or linda warnings. Uploaded. Since I'm mentioned as

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Sandro Tosi
By source package, Russ was referring to the following files: libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1.dsc libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1.diff.gz libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06.orig.tar.gz I think it's a binary package: I take the .pm file from CPAN, and taking other lib as model, I've created a

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:11:16AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: [Russ Allbery wrote:] Is the source package available? It's hard to judge packaging and impossible to sponsor a package from just the deb. here is the archive from where i generate the deb:

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:36:56AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: By source package, Russ was referring to the following files: libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1.dsc libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06-1.diff.gz libcrypt-simple-perl_0.06.orig.tar.gz I think it's a binary package: I take the

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread tony mancill
Just to make sure we're all talking about the same thing, Sandro, are you referring to this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ If so, I think you should have read the introduction more carefully, where the author states: The intended use of such a newly created

Re: new pkg: libcrypt-simple-per

2005-12-19 Thread Sandro Tosi
Just to make sure we're all talking about the same thing, Sandro, are you referring to this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ Yes, I've used this one I bring this up on the list not to embarass you, but because no problem at all: I'm here to learn