Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 17/02/2008, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: If you want to document how/why you re-packaged the source for Debian, this should be in README.Debian-source. No, that is supposed to be in debian/copyright. See recent discussions on -mentors, then moved to -devel -policy, subthread starting around

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080217 07:31]: For ensuring the exact tarball that was used to generate the orig tarball is used. But we keep them allready on alioth. So a get current orig target would be quite easier as an wget from the pkg-games website, wouldn't it? Yours sincerely,

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Samstag, den 16.02.2008, 23:10 -0500 schrieb Andres Mejia: I have two questions. First question is; Is it at all possible to write a get-orig-source target that calls an external script to handle generating the orig tarball? Of course. The problem I'm facing is when the

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:53:48AM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: This is not true if you simply build the whole package from source. That is, run autotools during build, remove all generated files, including Makefile.in, configure, etc, in the clean target. For some reason many people seem to

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sunday 17 February 2008 4:04:41 am Bas Wijnen wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 02:39:03PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote: Andres Mejia wrote: Is it at all possible to write a get-orig-source target that calls an external script to handle generating the orig tarball? Aside from the

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:02:21 -0500 Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Sunday 17 February 2008 4:04:41 am Bas Wijnen wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 02:39:03PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote: To find the path, $(dir $_)/script can be used, to make sure it works from any

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sunday 17 February 2008 8:31:11 am Alexander Schmehl wrote: * Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080217 07:31]: For ensuring the exact tarball that was used to generate the orig tarball is used. But we keep them allready on alioth. So a get current orig target would be quite easier as an

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather than incurring the pain of gratuitous full regeneration every time, we just regenerate it when the user has changed something. Yes, the user now gets to resolve any problems that might have been pre-existing, but realistically either the Debian

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080217 17:21]: For ensuring the exact tarball that was used to generate the orig tarball is used. But we keep them allready on alioth. So a get current orig target would be quite easier as an wget from the pkg-games website, wouldn't it? That's

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:07:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:53:48AM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: This is not true if you simply build the whole package from source. That is, run autotools during build, remove all generated files, including Makefile.in, configure,

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Autoconf is pretty stable, This has not been the experience of many of us. I haven't had a lot of trouble fixing things for newer releases of Autoconf, but I definitely have seen issues. And the Autoconf 2.13 to 2.50 transition and all the subsequent

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:37:54 am David Paleino wrote: Il giorno Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:02:21 -0500 Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Sunday 17 February 2008 4:04:41 am Bas Wijnen wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 02:39:03PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote: To find the path,

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:15:20AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Autoconf is pretty stable, This has not been the experience of many of us. I haven't had a lot of trouble fixing things for newer releases of Autoconf, but I definitely have seen issues.

Re: ITP takeover?

2008-02-17 Thread Erick Mattos
Hello David, I am the owner of the ITP and I had been trying to add Code::Blocks to Debian repositories. I had created the packages more than once but always having to change something to fulfill mentor's demands. When everything was looking like it would be finally solved then Code::Blocks team

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sunday 17 February 2008 1:35:05 pm Alexander Schmehl wrote: Hi! * Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080217 17:21]: For ensuring the exact tarball that was used to generate the orig tarball is used. But we keep them allready on alioth. So a get current orig target would be

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: I think we should recommend (but not require) that AM_MAINTAINER_MODE not be used, and perhaps work to specify an optional debian/rules target that regenerates the build system in an appropriate way. That seems to provide the necessary benefits for

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:24:43PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: Yes, I second Russ here and would like to add that it's very easy to trigger the timestamp skews if you simply create a patch for configure + configure.in/.ac as the files will be sorted as configure first and then

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:08:47PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: The fact that there exist packages which work properly without recompiling from source doesn't mean it's a good default. IMO the default should be to always compile from source. Yes, that means hassle for the packager; it's pretty

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:29:59PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:08:47PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: The fact that there exist packages which work properly without recompiling from source doesn't mean it's a good default. IMO the default should be to always compile

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:30:42PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: Il giorno Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:59:51 -0500 Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:37:54 am David Paleino wrote: Why not using $(CURDIR)? It should give you the dir where debian/ is located

Re: ITP takeover?

2008-02-17 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:30:28 -0300 Erick Mattos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hello David, Hi Erick, I am the owner of the ITP and I had been trying to add Code::Blocks to Debian repositories. I had created the packages more than once but always having to change something to fulfill

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:59:51 -0500 Andres Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:37:54 am David Paleino wrote: Why not using $(CURDIR)? It should give you the dir where debian/ is located (i.e. $(CURDIR) == debian/../). I've always used it in my

Re: Writing get-orig-source targets to conform with policy

2008-02-17 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 23:58 +0100 schrieb Bas Wijnen: [..] The get-orig-source target specifies that it must work from anywhere. Where do you read this? The policy says, that it [..] may be invoked in any directory [..]. To my understanding, this is not a must work from anywhere. I agree,

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:55:03PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: Not at all. If it's optional, it's likely that many packages will not have it. Also, if the build system doesn't use it by default, it is likely that many of those targets are never tested and don't actually work. We

RFS: ITA: libapache-mod-random

2008-02-17 Thread Andreas Wenning
Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package libapache-mod-random. * Package name: libapache-mod-random Version : 2.1-1 Upstream Author : Andreas Wenning * URL : http://tangent.org/394/mod_random.html * License : see debian/copyright Section

RFS: whichwayisup (new upstream release)

2008-02-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, I'm looking for a sponsor for the new upstream version of whichwayisup. It builds these binary packages: whichwayisup - 2D platform game with a slight rotational twist Description: Which Way Is Up, a traditional and challenging 2D platform game with a slight rotational twist. Help a

RFS: QA Uploade -- tkgate 1.8.7-1 - Event driven digital circuit simulator with Tcl/Tk

2008-02-17 Thread Barry deFreese
Hi folks, Here is a QA Upload for tkgate. It includes a new upstream (fixes an RC bug) and some significant re-packaging. It is also complaining about a large /usr/share, so I'm wondering if it should be split into a -data package or something? It was installing everything under

RFS: nettee

2008-02-17 Thread Joel Franco
Dear mentors, I am trying again look for a sponsor for my package nettee. I have found that other Debian people too think this useful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/145 * Package name: nettee Version : 0.1.8-3 Upstream Author : David Mathog * URL :

RFS: NMU: radiusclient - 0.3.2-11.1 -- /bin/login replacement which uses the RADIUS protocol for authentication.

2008-02-17 Thread Barry deFreese
Hi, Here is an NMU to fix an RC bug and two other minor bugs if someone has time to review/upload. http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/radiusclient/radiusclient_0.3.2-11.1.dsc Description: /bin/login replacement which uses the RADIUS protocol for authentication. Radiusclient is a