Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-05, Richard Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the maintainer is truly MIA, that is a bigger issue than any > single bug. Others have made this argument that we should Yes. but luckily, we can do both at the same time (fixing bugs and figuring out wether a maintainer is MIA) And

debconf .config scripts, preconfiguring and package order

2008-03-05 Thread Niko Tyni
Hi debian-mentors, is there any guarantee as to the order in which the debconf .config scripts are run when preconfiguring from apt? Specifically, are the .config scripts of a package's dependencies run before the .config script of the package itself? I have an actual use case with request-tracke

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Richard Hecker
Sune Vuorela wrote: .. the maintainer is MIA and the package can be orphaned beforehand, fine (but then it's no longer an NMU, it's a QA upload). Changing a SONAME is *not* acceptable in an NMU without permission from the maintainer. It is an especially bad idea when doing NMU's as part of a

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:34:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 12:37 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2008-03-05, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> of course is changing SONAMEs in a NMU appropriate if it is appropriate. > > > > > > That equates to a host

RFS: tcng (updated) -- 4 bugs including RC

2008-03-05 Thread Adam Borowski
Hi! I am still looking for a sponsor for tcng; either long-term or one-shot. If someone would bother to review and/or upload the package, it would be great. One of outstanding bugs is RC, and it has been waiting for an upload for quite some time. One question: newest lintian complains about doc

Re: RFS: NMU: orange -- extracts CAB files from self-extracting installers

2008-03-05 Thread Barry deFreese
Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 09:12 +, Neil Williams wrote: Barry - what about the other packages by the same maintainer (quite a few of them also have RC bugs)? The reason for orphaning orange applies to the other packages too. (mia-query does show that voc is MIA). I

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-05, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, fix known bugs but don't delay the RC bugs just to fix less > important ones. That's perverse. Do two uploads ;) - one to "now" and one to delayed. > All I'm saying here is that sponsors should not expect NMUs to fix the > full range

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 12:37 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2008-03-05, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> of course is changing SONAMEs in a NMU appropriate if it is appropriate. > > > > That equates to a hostile hijacking. If the package is orphaned or if > No it don't. it is just bugf

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-05, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> of course is changing SONAMEs in a NMU appropriate if it is appropriate. > > That equates to a hostile hijacking. If the package is orphaned or if No it don't. it is just bugfixing. If it requires binary incompatible changes to fix it, of c

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 10:57 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2008-03-04, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are sponsors going to start recommending changing SONAMEs in an NMU > > next? Adding -dbg packages? Of course not, NMUs are different to typical > > RFS activity. > > of course is c

Re: RFS: NMU: orange -- extracts CAB files from self-extracting installers

2008-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-05, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Let orange be removed from Lenny due to the existing RC bug, or > 2. Let orange behave as it has in previous stable releases without > fixing a bug that nobody seems to care about. 3. Fixing the bugs. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Requests for sponsors to upload NMUs

2008-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-04, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are sponsors going to start recommending changing SONAMEs in an NMU > next? Adding -dbg packages? Of course not, NMUs are different to typical > RFS activity. of course is changing SONAMEs in a NMU appropriate if it is appropriate. > Havin

Re: RFS: NMU: orange -- extracts CAB files from self-extracting installers

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 09:12 +, Neil Williams wrote: > Barry - what about the other packages by the same maintainer (quite a > few of them also have RC bugs)? The reason for orphaning orange applies > to the other packages too. (mia-query does show that voc is MIA). I'll follow up on that mysel

Re: RFS: NMU: orange -- extracts CAB files from self-extracting installers

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 23:20 +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 16:07 +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Here is another one of my way too intrusive NMUs that closes RC bug > > > #465633 and bug #400257

Re: RFS: NMU: orange -- extracts CAB files from self-extracting installers

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 12:48 +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Neither orange in the archive nor the result of your NMU even work for > > > zip files (with unzip installed) nor other files where it should work. > > > >>From