Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>Now, does the autobuilder get moved to another machine, or do I just put on >>my scary face when adding people to the authorised uploaders list? > > > If you are using i386: umlbuilder > > That way you need an uml exploit and a root exploit to use the uml > exploi

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>Now, does the autobuilder get moved to another machine, or do I just put on >>my scary face when adding people to the authorised uploaders list? > > > If you are using i386: umlbuilder > > That way you need an uml exploit and a root exploit to use the uml > exploi

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > > > > > Since

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > > > > > Since

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > > > Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > > > Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean sid > chroot out of my system, you can be fairly sure of t

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: > > package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a > > package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be > > Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean sid > chroot out of my system, you can be fairly sure of t

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. > > > > Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to > > me. I want to ma

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track > > > -changes... > > Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I > > prefer > >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:39:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe > > > it's not > > > >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. > > > > Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to > > me. I want to ma

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... > > Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer > > parsing thos

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track > > -changes... > Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I > prefer > parsing those over automatically processing email. Also,

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe > > it's not > > That's the problem with the FTP masters naming everything after women - >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >4) Automatically removing packages once they've been uploaded seems to be a >> >general winner. >> Couldn't you just reference packages.d.o (or a local Packages/Sources file)? >Sorry, I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that I scan an updated >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:39:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not > > > > That's

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >2) Download tracking, both by count and "yes I'll upload this" via web > >browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable > >resources, or whether pre-built bina

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... > Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer > parsing those over automatically processing email. Also, it does

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not > > That's the problem with the FTP masters naming everything after women - > nobo

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. > > Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to > me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose A wor

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >4) Automatically removing packages once they've been uploaded seems to be a >> >general winner. >> Couldn't you just reference packages.d.o (or a local Packages/Sources file)? >Sorry, I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that I scan an updated >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >2) Download tracking, both by count and "yes I'll upload this" via web > >browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable > >resources, or whether pre-built bina

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. > > Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to > me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose A wor

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: > So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >2) Download tracking, both by count and "yes I'll upload this" via web >browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable >resources, or whether pre-built binary debs will be accessable. I don't >particularly want to be a gene

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:22:22AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > > AM after it has been verified, and che

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:45:00AM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors > > would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than > > whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other > > sponsors might occ

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >There are many people who got a signature by a DD's key who are not applying >for DDship, probably never will, and who probably should not be able to >upload to your queue. Getting a signature is just a confirmation of identity, >afte

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be us

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >2) Download tracking, both by count and "yes I'll upload this" via web >browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable >resources, or whether pre-built binary debs will be accessable. I don't >particularly want to be a gene

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:22:22AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > > AM after it has been verified, and chec

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:45:00AM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors > > would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than > > whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other > > sponsors might occ

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >There are many people who got a signature by a DD's key who are not applying >for DDship, probably never will, and who probably should not be able to >upload to your queue. Getting a signature is just a confirmation of identity, >afte

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be us

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > > > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > > > "could help lots of

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > >>>Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > >>>AM after it has been verified, and checking the s

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > > > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > > > "could help lots of

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > > "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > >>>Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > >>>AM after it has been verified, and checking the s

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >>>Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any >>>AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc >>>files against it sounds good to. And t

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for > >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for > other purposes too. Why not just check if the key is

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > > "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of > "wouldn't it be cool if we coul

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >>>Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any >>>AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc >>>files against it sounds good to. And t

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for > >

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any > AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc > files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for > other purposes too. Why not just check if the key is

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been > reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a > "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of > "wouldn't it be cool if we coul

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:57:55PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors > would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than > whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other > sponsors might occasional

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:57:55PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors > would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than > whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other > sponsors might occasional

Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of "wouldn't it be cool if we could remove the SPOF of sponsors, and have a group of p

Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a "helps me" thing to a "could help lots of people" thing. The comment was along the lines of "wouldn't it be cool if we could remove the SPOF of sponsors, and have a group of p