Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-18 Thread Eric VB
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:07:47AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:50:24AM +0100, Eric VB wrote: If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? When I applied, there was not much demand. There weren't

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-18 Thread Eric VB
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:07:47AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:50:24AM +0100, Eric VB wrote: If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? When I applied, there was not much demand. There

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-17 Thread Eric VB
Hamish, Just one question. If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? Yours, Eric. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:39:43AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:37:21PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: If he

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:50:24AM +0100, Eric VB wrote: If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? When I applied, there was not much demand. There weren't several hundred applicants waiting, so there was no queue. There was

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-17 Thread Eric VB
Hamish, Just one question. If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? Yours, Eric. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:39:43AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:37:21PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: If he

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:50:24AM +0100, Eric VB wrote: If you can do virtually everything without being a DD as you mentioned before, why did you apply to be one ??? When I applied, there was not much demand. There weren't several hundred applicants waiting, so there was no queue. There was

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: ** On Jan 15, Hamish Moffatt scribbled: No, Debian (a software project) is about developing an OS, not about providing access to machines. The machines are only a tool for developing the distribution. yes, but you can't

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:30:59PM +0100, Eric VB wrote: At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at ha nd, and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other distribution is prohibited . I'm /home-less and I'm not rich enough to buy

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:30:59PM +0100, Eric VB wrote: At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at ha nd, and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other distribution is prohibited . I'm /home-less and I'm not rich enough to buy a

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:37:21PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: If he has root access on his Suse box, I think a chroot Debian environment might work out if he's careful. Good point. If his work allows it.. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Christian T . Steigies
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: yes, but you can't expect all the maintainers hava a park of machines of all architectures. And yet, the Debian OS runs different kernels and on different architectures. The conclusion is obvious. I am pretty sure that if you

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Saturday 13 January 2001, at 11 h 10, the keyboard of Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . uploading packages (through a sponsor) After months of sponsorship-bashing ('it will break Debian', 'it will short-circuit the normal NM process'), then after months of ignorance, now it is

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on, isn't it? Especially a multi-arch/multi-OS distribution like Debian. No,

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 15, Hamish Moffatt scribbled: On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on, isn't it? Especially a

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Eric VB
As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand, and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other distribution is prohibited. I'm /home-less and I'm not rich

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Christian T . Steigies
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: yes, but you can't expect all the maintainers hava a park of machines of all architectures. And yet, the Debian OS runs different kernels and on different architectures. The conclusion is obvious. I am pretty sure that if you ask

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:30:59PM +0100, Eric VB wrote: As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand, and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:47:21PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: On 20010114T010257-0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? Those are special cases, and warrant access to our non-x86 machines. What about those with sid (me) who want access to

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Britton
I mean, is it really difficult to see how approving someone who'll maintain a couple of packages that'll get dropped into optional or extra isn't really a high priority? Is it difficult to see how someone might The problem with this logic is that you don't have much chance of being able to

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Scott Dier
* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010113 17:31]: Only for very few tasks you will require to be an official Debian are not important, neither is login access to Debian systems. What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? What if I someday end up with a package like

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 01:02:57AM -0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? What if I someday end up with a package like that, want to see it for myself, fix the problem, and send the patch upstream like a good developer? Having access to

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010114T010257-0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? Those are special cases, and warrant access to our non-x86 machines. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Keep the Deja

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Daniel Stone
On 20010114T010257-0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? Those are special cases, and warrant access to our non-x86 machines. What about those with sid (me) who want access to potato and woody machines to test with weird breakages? (me) Why in

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:47:21PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: On 20010114T010257-0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? Those are special cases, and warrant access to our non-x86 machines. What about those with sid (me) who want access to potato

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:47:44AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I mean, is it really difficult to see how approving someone who'll maintain a couple of packages that'll get dropped into optional or extra isn't really a high priority? Is it difficult to see how someone might think, oh, I don't

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-14 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 14, Anthony Towns scribbled: On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:47:21PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: On 20010114T010257-0600, Scott Dier wrote: What about odd programs with breakage on non-x86 platforms? Those are special cases, and warrant access to our non-x86 machines. What about

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010113T111032+0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Only for very few tasks you will require to be an official Debian maintainer. However, as long as you are not a Debian developer, you do not have power over policy or in constitutional issues. You can't, for example, vote for a DPL or second

New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-13 Thread Martin Schulze
People, stay calm! For a lot of work, no official Debian Maintainership is required: . Fixing bugs . Working on boot floppies . Revising bug reports . Quality assurance . Testing . Helpping the web team . uploading packages (through a sponsor) Only for very few tasks you will require to

Re: New-maintainer - STOP THAT SHIT

2001-01-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010113T111032+0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Only for very few tasks you will require to be an official Debian maintainer. However, as long as you are not a Debian developer, you do not have power over policy or in constitutional issues. You can't, for example, vote for a DPL or second