Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-03 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia a écrit : On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: RFS has something similar in concept to pull requests. How about including in the RFS emails a link to the most relevant diff in the web

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia a écrit : On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: RFS has something similar in concept to pull requests. How about including in the RFS emails a link to the most relevant diff in the web interface of the VCS where the package is

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 09:59:45PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : I think this is a superb step in the right direction; while clearly the list on mentors.debian.net, as suggested in another email in this thread, is the more comprehensive list of

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of packages that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people please review some package is pretty awkward... Best regards, Michael

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 09:59:45PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : I think this is a superb step in the right direction; while clearly the list on mentors.debian.net, as suggested in another email in this thread, is the more comprehensive list of packages in need of sponsorship, this

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Scott Howard
Hello, On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org wrote: Unfortunately, proposals such as the collaborative package review by Charles Plessy [2] haven't caught any attention. In particular, this is a call to people not being DD (yet): Everyone could review packages,

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Paul Wise
Perhaps (hopefully) this initiative will change the culture of this list. I'll certainly try to remember to point out when people are ignoring non-DDs input. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Perhaps (hopefully) this initiative will change the culture of this list. I'll certainly try to remember to point out when people are ignoring non-DDs input. Me too, probably I'll even refrain from sponsoring should I note such behavior. Best regards, Michael pgpWQgPPBsI8a.pgp

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread The Fungi
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:49:25AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: Personally I believe that Noel's statement is relates to upstream, who have their own packaging + their own little repository as compared to upstreams like you, who also work on the Debian side. [...] Which was more or less my

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] Hmm, how can we encourage non-DDs to review packages. I'm thinking it might work to offer sponsorship in exchange for reviews. So, a DD reviews a package from maintainer. If there are no blockers to the upload, the DD says, looks good, review someone elses package and I'll

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Mònica
Hello, On Friday 29 October 2010 at 20:13:21, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 08:34:25 Paul Wise escribió: [...] I think I'll also do a workshop about reviewing packages at the MiniDebConf in Vietnam. Does anyone think that an online workshop (IRC or similar) about

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of packages that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people please review some package is pretty awkward... Best

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread George Danchev
Quoting Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org: Hi Michael, I liked the idea of requesting reviews from people whose packages will get sponsored; but I'd just ask for doing that voluntarily. I probably should have taken the chance to ask people for doing so yesterday, maybe I'll even send those

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-10-30 02:16, The Fungi wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:44:37PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: [...] Is it always an upstream package worst than a repackaged package? [...] From what I've seen, in most cases, yes. I am one of

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of packages that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people please review some package is pretty awkward... Best regards, Michael Asheesh: Sounds

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] I liked the idea of requesting reviews from people whose packages will get sponsored; but I'd just ask for doing that voluntarily. I probably should have taken the chance to ask people for doing so yesterday, maybe I'll even send those people another email. [...] Done as [1].

Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi all, Following Asheesh's proposal [1] we should try to reply to a post to debian-mentors within four days. I felt there was an increased willingness to kindly reply to RFS following this proposal, but it seems to have decreased again. Myself, I'd be willing to keep up this kind service to

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org wrote: So this was the first time I dragged together such a list, and most probably it will already be the last time. It just takes way too much time and feels pretty much like a Sisyphus task as people just keep sending

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/29/2010 03:34 PM, Paul Wise wrote: I think I'll also do a workshop about reviewing packages at the MiniDebConf in Vietnam. Does anyone think that an online workshop (IRC or similar) about package review would be helpful? Paul, I'll try to bring my DVD cam, so we can film all

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 08:34:25 Paul Wise escribió: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org wrote: So this was the first time I dragged together such a list, and most probably it will already be the last time. It just takes way too much time and feels pretty

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Ben Finney
Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes: I see a small problem with this, and it is the following: imagine that somebody packages a useful application. He has no special interest in Debian, but only in that application, and it is an application we consider worth enough to have in

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 22:05:40 Ben Finney escribió: Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes: I see a small problem with this, and it is the following: imagine that somebody packages a useful application. He has no special interest in Debian, but only in that application, and

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread The Fungi
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:44:37PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: [...] Is it always an upstream package worst than a repackaged package? [...] From what I've seen, in most cases, yes. I am one of the guilty one pet package upstream authors who gets my Debian work uploaded by a gracious

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Ben Finney
Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes: On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 22:05:40 Ben Finney escribió: Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes: That person creates the Debian package (as he creates packages for other distros) and puts it here. It is a good package of a