Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: As said on IRC, cue anti-git flamage. In debian we use a multitude of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally maintain packages

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org writes: Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: I'm not sure what “coordinating via notes at the top of debian/changelog” means. Bear in mind that the changelog is primarily for communicating package changes *to users* of those packages. The Perl

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Tim Retout
On 14 June 2010 02:20, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: As said on IRC, cue anti-git flamage. In debian we use a multitude of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
Tim Retout t...@retout.co.uk writes: I'm not particularly attached to the choice of VCS; but what I do think is important is that people /do/ choose a VCS. Rather, I think it's important (for the good reasons you explained) that a package maintainer *use* a VCS for their packaging work. They

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org writes: All of these notes are removed before the upload so they do not show up in the released packages. I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team members about the current state of packages. Leaving notes is a good communication

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:25:07PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org writes: I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team members about the current state of packages. Leaving notes is a good communication method? Seriously? How about *talking*

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org writes: All of these notes are removed before the upload so they do not show up in the released packages. I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team members about the current state of

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Felipe Sateler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/06/10 10:05, Tim Retout wrote: Proposal I am considering creating a new workflow for my sponsoring: * Maintaining packages in git in collab-maint. (I don't think we want a separate pkg-mentors repository,

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Felipe Sateler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/06/10 01:55, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: I started working on a version of PET that supports several VCS backends, even for a single instance: all packages show up on a single package no matter in which of the known VCS they live in. For now

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com wrote: The only problem I see is that PET does not really scale well to lots of packages, the page gets quite cluttered. So I don't know if pulling the whole collab-maint area will be of any use. I suppose that depends on how

RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Retout
[Please excuse the long email. I welcome comments.] There has been some recent discussion on debian-mentors about the difficulties being faced by contributors seeking sponsorship, i.e. that DDs willing to sponsor packages are short on time and/or motivation. In my view, this is an important

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread George Danchev
Quoting Tim Retout dioc...@debian.org: [Please excuse the long email. I welcome comments.] Hi, a lot of helpful technical details, already used for years [1] (though I don't know what PET is), however I still can't see how the 'splitted brain syndrome' is dealt with, the logical problem,

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Tim Retout dioc...@debian.org wrote:      * Maintaining packages in git in collab-maint. (I don't think we        want a separate pkg-mentors repository, because once people        graduate from mentors they would feel compelled to move away.) As said on IRC,

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: As said on IRC, cue anti-git flamage. In debian we use a multitude of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally maintain packages in git, in SVN and in no VCS and prefer either no VCS