Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-21 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:02:04 -0500 Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: I must move my projects before berlios closes. Any suggestions? i) About GitHub; they seem to have a subversion API, too: https://github.com/blog/966-improved-subversion-client-support ii) Mercurial

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:55:01AM +0300, Andrew Shadura a écrit : On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:02:04 -0500 Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: I must move my projects before berlios closes. Any suggestions? i) About GitHub; they seem to have a subversion API, too:

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-21 Thread Tony Houghton
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:02:04 -0500 Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: Perhaps this is offtopic, but there are so many packagers here, perhaps I can find an answer. Berlios is closing, I have two small projects, GPLed, that use subversion and publish tarballs, where should I

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Roger Light
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Not getting into any war, but it seems 90% of everyone thinks Git is a way better than BZR, and that the 10% that remains are BZR extremists. Since VCS is all about sharing your sources (unless you don't care about others

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Light ro...@atchoo.org writes: I think it's more like 100% of people prefer the DVCS they use first because anything after that is different. Nope. Used svk first, then arch, then used bzr extensively for a while, and then learned Git and switched everything else over to it as soon as

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Roger Light ro...@atchoo.org writes: I think it's more like 100% of people prefer the DVCS they use first because anything after that is different. Nope. Used svk first, then arch, then used bzr extensively for a while, and then learned Git and

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 07:34:31AM +0100, Roger Light wrote: I think it's more like 100% of people prefer the DVCS they use first because anything after that is different. False. I started off with Bazaar, used it happily for a couple years, then moved everything to Git because I liked it

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Not getting into any war, but it seems 90% of everyone thinks Git is a way better than BZR, and that the 10% that remains are BZR extremists. Since VCS is all about sharing your sources (unless you don't care about others and sees it as only a

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I also think that Bazaar is easy enough to learn for both experienced and inexperienced developers/dvcs users.  I can't think of a single contributor to e.g. GNU Mailman or python-mode.el that has told me they won't contribute just because

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Paul Wise wrote: I think people tend not to contribute at all to projects using a VCS they don't like. I still contribute to Python wink. For example I might stop putting off the Mailman stuff I promised to work on (porting the Indymedia patchset to mailman 3) if

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Chiang
* Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org: On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Paul Wise wrote: For example I might stop putting off the Mailman stuff I promised to work on (porting the Indymedia patchset to mailman 3) if it wasn't using bzr. That does make me sad. If you contribute in general to open

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Alex Chiang achi...@canonical.com writes: The lowest common denominator is patch(1). So all you really need to know how to do is use the upstream's tool to obtain the source: git clone bzr branch svn co etc. Even better, at least in Debian's case, there's

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 20, 2011, at 08:48 AM, Alex Chiang wrote: The lowest common denominator is patch(1). So all you really need to know how to do is use the upstream's tool to obtain the source: git clone bzr branch svn co etc. Then, you can import the source into your favorite

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrea Bolognani e...@kiyuko.org writes: This doesn’t completely disprove your point, though. Truth is, most DVCS are no more different from one another than different imperative programming languages are, and programmers constantly move from a project using a certain language to another

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-19 Thread Matthias Schmitz
Hi Paul, Am Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:02:04 -0500 schrieb Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com: Perhaps this is offtopic, but there are so many packagers here, perhaps I can find an answer. Berlios is closing, I have two small projects, GPLed, that use subversion and publish tarballs,

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/18/2011 11:44 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Boris Pek wrote: Of course, I'll disagree about Bazaar there. I think it's actually the most user friendly of the bunch, and totally up to the task of hosting your projects. I use it for almost all of mine. I also

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Paul McEnery
On 18 October 2011 06:02, Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: [...] Any suggestions? GitHub? I use them for my package repos, and I see that MythTV recently (in the last few months) switched to them. Not sure about the full project experience, I.e. mailing lists, website etc,

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:22:15AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: On 18 October 2011 06:02, Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: Any suggestions? GitHub? What about Gitorious? They provide a bit less, but without any obnoxious restrictions. And they release their server software

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Paul Elliott
On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:22:15 AM Paul McEnery wrote: On 18 October 2011 06:02, Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: [...] Any suggestions? GitHub? I use them for my package repos, and I see that MythTV recently (in the last few months) switched to them. Not sure

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Boris Pek
Hi, In my personal experience free hosting services by the degree of convenience arranged in this order: 1) GitHub. Best of the best, really. =) You can use svn2git or git-svn to import the history of your commits from Subversion: http://help.github.com/import-from-subversion/ 2) Google Code.

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Sending the reply to the list too, maybe there are other people interested and nobody mentioned it yet... 2011/10/18 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montez...@gmail.com: 2011/10/18 Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com: On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:22:15 AM Paul McEnery wrote: On

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 18.10.2011 10:42, schrieb Paul Elliott: On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:22:15 AM Paul McEnery wrote: On 18 October 2011 06:02, Paul Elliottpelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: [...] Any suggestions? GitHub? I use them for my package repos, and I see that MythTV recently (in the last few

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Boris Pek
 I don't want to learn GIT right now. Is there someplace I could stay with svn? Maybe it was the sign to learn something new? =) Git and Mercurial are really great DVCS. They are very suitable for small projects with small developers group. Subversion is more suitable for extremely big

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno mar, 18/10/2011 alle 10.44 +0200, Patrick Matthäi ha scritto: Am 18.10.2011 10:42, schrieb Paul Elliott: On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:22:15 AM Paul McEnery wrote: On 18 October 2011 06:02, Paul Elliottpelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: [...] Any suggestions?

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Boris Pek wrote:  I don't want to learn GIT right now. Is there someplace I could stay with svn? Maybe it was the sign to learn something new? =) Git and Mercurial are really great DVCS. They are very suitable for small projects with small developers group.

Re: berlios closing; where should my projects escape to?

2011-10-17 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com writes: I must move my projects before berlios closes. Any suggestions? Alioth is free-software project hosting run by people from the Debian project URL:https://alioth.debian.org/. -- \“Ubi dubium, ibi libertas.” (“Where there is doubt,