How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
I have uploaded a package on mentors.debian.net, and I got some review
of my package suggesting some modifications
(http://mentors.debian.net/package/vmtouch)

Now that I have done the suggested changes, should I rather:
A) delete the old package, upload a new one with same version number
(and lose the reviewing suggestions)

B) keep the old package online, upload a new one with same version
number (at the expense of some confusion in the mentors.debian.net page)

C) delete the old package, upload a new one with a new revision number
(even if the changes are minimal)

I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip where
all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
If not I can use github/gitorious.

Greetings
Emmanuel


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Lintott
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On 26 February 2014 09:55:44 GMT+00:00, Emmanuel Kasper emman...@libera.cc 
wrote:
I have uploaded a package on mentors.debian.net, and I got some review
of my package suggesting some modifications
(http://mentors.debian.net/package/vmtouch)

Now that I have done the suggested changes, should I rather:
A) delete the old package, upload a new one with same version number
(and lose the reviewing suggestions)

B) keep the old package online, upload a new one with same version
number (at the expense of some confusion in the mentors.debian.net
page)

C) delete the old package, upload a new one with a new revision number
(even if the changes are minimal)


Leave the version number the same and upload to mentors again. The new package 
will appear above the old on the package page.

I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip
where
all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
If not I can use github/gitorious.


I believe you could use collab-maint but I have no experience with it myself.

As you say alternatively use github or similar, I have done that for 3 of my 
packages.

Using git will also allow you to use git-buildpackage. Details are in the 
wiki... But I don't have the link to hand.

Greetings
Emmanuel

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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Feb 26, 2014 10:56 AM, Emmanuel Kasper emman...@libera.cc wrote:
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?


Sure, but you need a DD to advocate you. See
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/PackagingProject

 I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip where
 all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
 If not I can use github/gitorious.

Usually for a simple package should be used collab-maint project, and not
an external project.


Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Bertrand Marc
Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be able
to use a personal git repository [1].

Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate [2].

Cheers,
Bertrand

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories
[2] http://deb.li/3qmXG



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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:55:44AM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?
Yes, though you need a DD advocate to join collab-maint, see
http://deb.li/3qmXG (linked from
https://alioth.debian.org/projects/collab-maint )

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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Ross Gammon
On 02/26/2014 11:23 AM, Daniel Lintott wrote:
snip
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?
 
 I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip
 where
 all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
 If not I can use github/gitorious.
 
 
 I believe you could use collab-maint but I have no experience with it myself.
 
 As you say alternatively use github or similar, I have done that for 3 of my 
 packages.
 
 Using git will also allow you to use git-buildpackage. Details are in the 
 wiki... But I don't have the link to hand.
 
It is a good idea to use collab-maint as all Debian Developers have
access by default and can easily step in to help out when required, and
you can agree with others to co-maintain the package with you in case
you get busy etc.

You can read about collab-maint here:
https://wiki.debian.org/CollaborativeMaintenance

You will need your sponsor to write an email to allow the Alioth team to
approve your request to set up the repository. Details on the process
are here:
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/PackagingProject

Regards,

Ross
 Greetings
 Emmanuel
 
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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
Le 26/02/2014 11:35, Bertrand Marc a écrit :
 Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging work on alioth when you're
 not a Debian Developper ?
 
 You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be
 able to use a personal git repository [1].
 
 Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate
 [2].

OK tahnks for info, it seems  this rules out collab-maint, because if
my package is not yet in Debian, so I don't think I will find an
advocate. Collab-maint brings the following chicken and egg problem:

sponsored package wants to be in Debian - sponsored packages needs a
VCS url to be reviewed - VCS should be collab-maint for small
packages - access collab-maint should be avocated - advocate will
likely accept only if package is already in debian ...

But there are alternatives.

 Cheers, Bertrand
 
 [1]
 https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories 
 [2] http://deb.li/3qmXG
 


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Ross Gammon
On 02/26/2014 12:03 PM, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
 Le 26/02/2014 11:35, Bertrand Marc a écrit :
 Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging work on alioth when you're
 not a Debian Developper ?

 You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be
 able to use a personal git repository [1].

 Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate
 [2].
 
 OK tahnks for info, it seems  this rules out collab-maint, because if
 my package is not yet in Debian, so I don't think I will find an
 advocate. Collab-maint brings the following chicken and egg problem:
 
 sponsored package wants to be in Debian - sponsored packages needs a
 VCS url to be reviewed - VCS should be collab-maint for small
 packages - access collab-maint should be avocated - advocate will
 likely accept only if package is already in debian ...

No, you do not need a VCS url to get the package reviewed. You have done
the right thing and uploaded it to Mentors. When you find a sponsor and
they are happy with the package they can do the upload/release from
there. Then if they are happy to continue sponsoring the next versions
for you, they may prefer you to move it to collab-maint.

 
 But there are alternatives.
 
 Cheers, Bertrand

 [1]
 https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories 
 [2] http://deb.li/3qmXG

 
 


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:03:58PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
  advocate will likely accept only if package is already in debian ...
Not necessarily.

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Maintainer scripts: execute command as another user: use sudo or su?

2014-02-26 Thread Emilien Klein
Hi Mentors,

TLDR: in order to execute a command as another user, should `sudo` or
`su --command` be used?


I'd like to get your opinion on how to best solve this issue:
I've got a package [0] that uses dbconfig-common to manage its
database. The database is owned by a specific user (not root).

In the pre- and postinst scripts, a command has to be performed as
that user (e.g. make a backup of the database).

I've at first used sudo to perform that, and it worked fine until
piuparts found an issue [1], since (as I hadn't realized) sudo is not
part of the base system (installed on 76% of popcon-reporting machines
[2])


I am wondering what the best way is to fix this. I see 2 solutions:
1. Depend on sudo
2. Use su --command instead


First lines from the respective manpages:
sudo, sudoedit - execute a command as another user
su - change user ID or become superuser


Following the Unix philosophy of using a collection of specialized
small tools that do one thing best, when performing an action as
another user it seems to be the correct thing to use a tool that
execute a command as another user rather than one whose primary goal
is change user ID or become superuser.

But on the other hand, su is part of corutils (which is in the base
install), so using su would remove the need of installing a new
package for about 25% of our users.

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks for getting a fellow Debian Maintainer out of his confusion!
(and let's hope it doesn't turn into a vi vs. Emacs debate ;) )
   +Emilien

[0] http://pts.debian.net/pkg/gnuhealth
[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739657
[2] Looking at popcon (obvious notice about [un]reliability of that
data applies) data from 2014-02-24:
- There are 167453 registered popcon users that sent information
- corutils (package that amongst others, contains su) sports 167451
installations (99.998% of installs) [3]
- sudo reports 127695 installations (76% of installs) [4]
[3] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=sudo
[4] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=coreutils


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Re: Maintainer scripts: execute command as another user: use sudo or su?

2014-02-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 26/02/2014 16:07, Emilien Klein a écrit :
 Hi Mentors,
 
 TLDR: in order to execute a command as another user, should `sudo` or
 `su --command` be used?
 
 
 I'd like to get your opinion on how to best solve this issue:
 I've got a package [0] that uses dbconfig-common to manage its
 database. The database is owned by a specific user (not root).

Hi Emilien,

I think you should use su. I am almost certain that sudo can be
configured in such a way that would break your assumptions, whereas su
can simply not be configured.

Besides, as you noted yourself, using sudo would imply a completely
unnecessary new dependency.

su is the right using tool for assuming another personality and dropping
privileges from root.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#740193: RFS: haskell-setlocale/0.0.3-1 [ITP]

2014-02-26 Thread Sven Bartscher
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libghc-setlocale
  Version : 0.0.3
  Upstream Author : Lukas Mai l@web.de
* URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/package/setlocale
* License : PublicDomain
  Programming Lang: haskell
  Description : Haskell bindings to setlocale()

We need a sponsor for our package haskell-setlocale.

We think it would be good to add it to Debian, as it is a basic library
for haskell and important for localization of haskell software.
The source package is available at
http://weltraumschlangen.de/downloads/haskell-setlocale/

We refers to me, Sven Bartscher, and my co-maintainer, Thomas Bartscher.

The ITP bug-number is #739538


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Bug#739585: marked as done (RFS: qjoypad/4.1.0-1 ITP)

2014-02-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package qjoypad

* Package name: qjoypad
  Version   : 4.1.0-1
  Upstream Author : John Toman virtuoussi...@users.sourceforge.net
* URL: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
* License   : GPL-2.0
  Section   : utils

It builds these binary packages:

  qjoypad - Program for mapping gamepad/joystick events to mouse/keyboard events

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/qjoypad

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x 
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More information about qjoypad can be obtained from
http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/.

Changes since the last upload:

  * Initial release (Closes: #564503)

The package contains two lintian info warnings:
desktop-entry-lacks-keywords-entry
no-upstream-changelog

For the desktop lacking keywords entry, I really didn't have any ideas
on what a user would type in other than the name and expect to find
qjoypad. I would be happy to include any suggestions here.

Regards,
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 I updated the desktop file, maintainer field, and pushed the tags.
 Thanks for the suggestions and the sponsorship.

Tagged'n'bagged (well, you'd tagged it already), it's now in the NEW queue.

Regards,

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Re: Maintainer scripts: execute command as another user: use sudo or su?

2014-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Emilien Klein emil...@klein.st writes:

 TLDR: in order to execute a command as another user, should `sudo` or
 `su --command` be used?

su.  You don't want to depend on sudo to ensure that it's available, since
package users may not want sudo installed on their systems.  (I tend not
to install it on servers myself, since I use Kerberos authentication and
don't use any system that involves sending long-term keys to servers, such
as sudo's default password model.)

In addition, I recommend explicitly setting the shell to use when running
commands with su (using the -s flag).  Specialized users for running
particular applications normally should not have a valid shell, and
auditors will often require that they not have a valid shell.  You don't
want that sort of change (possibly required by local audit policies) to
break the package.

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Bug#737493: RFS: iceowl-l10n/2.6.4-1 [NMU]

2014-02-26 Thread Vincent Cheng
Control: tag -1 + moreinfo

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Jerome Charaoui jer...@riseup.net wrote:
 reopen 737493
 thanks

 Hi,

 I'm reopening this RFS as the maintainer has given the OK for a NMU to
 experimental. See :
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693150#111

 Package is still available for review at
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/iceowl-l10n

A NMU + new upstream release should be versioned with -0.1, e.g.
iceowl-l10n 2.6.4-0.1.

Some of the patches are empty; is this intentional?
dpkg-source: warning: diff
`iceowl-l10n-2.6.4/debian/patches/Brand-es-ES.patch' doesn't contain
any patch
dpkg-source: warning: diff
`iceowl-l10n-2.6.4/debian/patches/Brand-it.patch' doesn't contain any
patch

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Bug#737493: RFS: iceowl-l10n/2.6.4-1 [NMU]

2014-02-26 Thread Jerome Charaoui
 A NMU + new upstream release should be versioned with -0.1, e.g.
 iceowl-l10n 2.6.4-0.1.

Fixed.


 Some of the patches are empty; is this intentional?
 dpkg-source: warning: diff
 `iceowl-l10n-2.6.4/debian/patches/Brand-es-ES.patch' doesn't contain
 any patch
 dpkg-source: warning: diff
 `iceowl-l10n-2.6.4/debian/patches/Brand-it.patch' doesn't contain any
 patch

No, not intentional. I had to generate a new patchset to match the
updated upstream strings, and I must have left those out by mistake. Fixed.

I've uploaded an updated package to m.d.n.

If you feel further corrections or changes are needed, please let me know.

  -- Jerome



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Bug#714087: marked as done (RFS: ipmiutil/2.9.2-1 [ITP])

2014-02-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package ipmiutil, which is a new package.
See Bug #650323 RFP also.

 * Package name: ipmiutil
   Version : 2.9.2
   Upstream Author : Andy Cress arcress at users.sourceforge.net
 * URL : http://ipmiutil.sourceforge.net
 * License : BSD
   Section : utils

  It builds these binary packages:

ipmiutil   - Easy-to-use IPMI server management utilities

  To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/ipmiutil


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/i/ipmiutil/ipmiutil_2.9.2.dsc

  More information about ipmiutil can be obtained from
http://ipmiutil.sourceforge.net.

  Changes since the last upload:

none


  Regards,
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Bug#725862: marked as done (RFS: django-haystack/2.1.0-1 [ITP] -- database and form RGB color fields for Django)

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   Upstream Author : Daniel Lindsley dan...@toastdriven.com
 * URL : http://haystacksearch.org/
 * License : BSD-3-clause
   Section : python

It builds those binary packages:

python-django-haystack - modular search for Django
python-django-haystack-doc - modular search for Django (Documentation)

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   Michael Fladischer

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Bug#733455: marked as done (RFS: grap/1.44-1 [ITA] -- program for typesetting graphs)

2014-02-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 27 Feb 2014 04:29:18 +
with message-id e1wisb0-00038p...@quantz.debian.org
and subject line closing RFS: grap/1.44-1 [ITA] -- program for typesetting 
graphs
has caused the Debian Bug report #733455,
regarding RFS: grap/1.44-1 [ITA] -- program for typesetting graphs
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

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Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: normal

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package grap

* Package name: grap
  Version : 1.44-1
  Upstream Author : Ted Faber fa...@lunabase.org
* URL : http://www.lunabase.org/~faber/Vault/software/grap/
* License : other
  Section : text

It builds those binary packages:

   grap  - program for typesetting graphs

To access further information about this package, please visit the 
following URL:


 http://mentors.debian.net/package/grap


Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

   dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/grap/grap_1.44-1.dsc


More information about this can be obtained from 
http://www.lunabase.org/~faber/Vault/software/grap/


Changes since the last upload:

  * New maintainer. Closes: #615895
  * New Upstream Version
  * Remove override_dh_clean from debian/rules
  * Remove all patches, since are not current or fixed in upstream
  * Update Standards-Version to 3.9.5

Regards,
  Matus Valo
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