Re: RFS: libapache2-mod-socket-policy-server (an Apache2 module for serving Adobe socket policy files)

2011-09-22 Thread Daniel Kauffman

On 09/21/2011 11:43 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:

On 09/21/2011 12:49 PM, Daniel Kauffman wrote:

... for serving Adobe socket policy files.

What's that? How do you make them?


Adobe Flash Player (since version 9.0.124.0) will not open a socket 
connection to a server unless the server first authorizes the connection 
via an Adobe socket policy. This module serves these policies. (Adobe 
uses a non-standard protocol for serving these policies, hence the 
existence of this module.)


Adobe socket policies are configured using XML. A selection of 
pre-configured socket policies are available in:


 /usr/share/libapache2-mod-socket-policy-server/socket-policy/

And more information about socket policies in particular, and cross 
domain policies in general, is available from the Adobe Cross Domain 
Policy File Specification:


 https://www.adobe.com/devnet/articles/crossdomain_policy_file_spec.html

Other useful links discussing Adobe socket policies:

 https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/socket_policy_files.html

 https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.html


The package is ready for sponsorship and can be downloaded from:

   http://socketpolicyserver.com


The updated package is ready for download.


1/ The package is a native package, which isn't required for an Apache
module IMO. Please read about it in the Debian policy manual.


There is no upstream, so it seemed appropriate to create a native 
package... is that incorrect? I didn't see a reference to quilt in the 
Debian Policy Manual and the Debian New Maintainers' Guide section 2.9 
seems to suggest that a native package is ok where there is no upstream. 
The native format seems a little simpler. But if I'm missing something, 
and the quilt format is preferable, I can switch to that.



2/ The package has apache2-threaded-dev as Build-Depends, any reason
why it wouldn't work with apache2-prefork-dev also? Also, having a
binary package with apache2 | apache2-mpm seems strange to me.


I agree, both of those seemed a little odd to me as well. I had 
referenced the instructions on:


  http://wiki.debian.org/Apache/PackagingModules

And it seems that building against the threaded headers results in a 
module that works with both threaded and non-threaded versions of 
apache2. In my case, I built the module against apache2-threaded-dev and 
have no issues running the module with either apache2-mpm-worker or 
apache2-mpm-prefork.


The binary dependency on apache2 | apache2-mpm was from those same 
instructions. Some apache2 modules use this construct, and some don't. 
All four of the apache2-mpm-* packages provide both names. I'm not sure 
what the reasoning is behind this, though it is interesting that apache2 
is a package and apache2-mpm is a virtual package. Perhaps this is some 
sort of historical artifact?



3/ It'd be nice to use the DEP5 format for debian/copyright. Please see
http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/. It's still a candidate, so it's not a
requirement though.


Updated, no problem.


4/ Your Standards-Version: isn't up-to-date. Did you build the package
in SID and ran lintian there?


Reviewed checklist and updated Standards-Version. Re-built using 
pbuilder sid and checked using lintian from backports. No issues.



I: libapache2-mod-socket-policy-server:
extended-description-is-probably-too-short

You don't need the last dot at the end, but you do need a longer
extended description. Lintian complains with less than 2 lines,
but I think at least 10 lines sounds reasonable. By reading what
you wrote, I still don't understand what your package is doing. :)


The description is now longer. Hopefully, it is also more descriptive. :-)


5/ Your debian/README explains how to use apt-get, that we can
edit the config file of the module, and how to restart apache. I
don't think you should do that, it's not helpful, but there might
be other things you want to document (like what to put in the
socket policy file for example?).


I updated the README to be a duplicate of the (new) description from the 
control file (including links describing the socket policy file format), 
plus a description of the configuration directives and a description of 
how to test that the module is configured as expected. Anything else 
come to mind that might be helpful here?



6/ Your package configures a VirtualHost in a /etc/apache2/conf.d
file, don't you think it would be nicer in /etc/apache2/sites-available?
If not, please explain here why.


True, VirtualHost doesn't really belong there. Not sure how I missed 
that. However, instead of moving the configuration, I removed the 
VirtualHost declaration, so that the default configuration is now a 
global configuration. None of the apache2 modules in the repository 
touch /etc/apache2/sites-available -- IMO the sites-available directory 
is more appropriate for something like a web application.



I hope the above helps,


It does, thank you.


Thanks for your will to 

Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Ole Streicher
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes:
 * Ole Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx, 2011-09-21, 16:42:
- libwcs4 and libwcs4-dev
- libpgsbox4 and libpgsbox4-dev

 First of all, don't version your -dev package(s), unless you want to
 keep multiple versions of it in the archive at the same people. (You
 probably don't.)
 Also, unless there's good reason to separate -dev package, I'd create
 just a single one.

So I would just create a common wcslib-dev package, correct?

And, which dependencies should the wcslib-dev package have? libpgsbox.a
would contain references to pgplot5; which is non-free, old and
ugly. However, in most of the cases one would just develop for libwcs,
so libpgsbox.a is just for some rare special cases.

Should wcslib-dev therefore suggest pgplot, but not depend on it? 

 Or is the link here made with the suggests/enhances dependency? And
 what would then suggest what? libwcs4-dev suggests wcslib-doc, or
 vice versa?

 You can use both. Or none. Users will find out which package they need
 anyway, so don't worry about it. :)

How would they do that? I personally would find it quite confusing to
find the development headers and documentation of libpgsbox4 in
wcslib-devel resp. wcslib-doc. 

- libwcs4-tools (two small executable)
- libpgsbox4-tools (one small executable)

 That make sense (except there's probably no need to version *-tools
 packages).

To summarize:

libwcs4 . shared library for libwcs.4.so
libpgsbox4 .. shared library for libpgsbox.4.so
 --- depends on libwcs4, pgplot5
wcslib-dev .. headers and static libs for libwcs and libpgsbox
 --- recommends libwcs4, wcslib-doc
 --- suggests libpgsbox4, pgplot5
wcslib-doc .. API documentation of libwcs and libpgsbox
 --- suggests wcslib-dev
libwcs-tools  small tools built with libwcs4
 --- depends on libwcs4
libpgsbox-tools . small tool built with libpgsbox
 --- depends on libwcs4, libpgsbox4, pgplot5

Any comments/improvements here? 

Is the division into main and contrib done automatically based on the
dependencies to non-free packages? And if a package requires a non-free
package to build, will it automatically go to contrib, even if the
package itself (like libwcs4) has no dependency to non-free?

Best regards

Ole


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Re: RFS: libapache2-mod-socket-policy-server (an Apache2 module for serving Adobe socket policy files)

2011-09-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/22/2011 03:32 PM, Daniel Kauffman wrote:

 Adobe Flash Player (since version 9.0.124.0) will not open a socket
 connection to a server unless the server first authorizes the
 connection via an Adobe socket policy. This module serves these
 policies. (Adobe uses a non-standard protocol for serving these
 policies, hence the existence of this module.)

 Adobe socket policies are configured using XML.
This is exactly what should be in your long description!!!


 There is no upstream, so it seemed appropriate to create a native
 package... is that incorrect?

What do you mean no upstream ? You mean that you are
BOTH upstream and maintainer?

 I didn't see a reference to quilt in the Debian Policy Manual and the
 Debian New Maintainers' Guide section 2.9 seems to suggest that a
 native package is ok where there is no upstream.

No. It's ok to do so when the software is intended only for
Debian (like, the Debian installer for example... I'm not even
sure that's the case, just an example), which isn't your case.

 The native format seems a little simpler. But if I'm missing
 something, and the quilt format is preferable, I can switch to that.
The native format has nothing to do with quilt / source format
1.0 vs 3.0. Unless you are doing something specific to Debian.
 And it seems that building against the threaded headers results in a
 module that works with both threaded and non-threaded versions of apache2.
Ok, cool then!

Thomas


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RFS: pidgin-privacy-please

2011-09-22 Thread Stefan Ott
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package pidgin-privacy-please.

 * Package name: pidgin-privacy-please
   Version : 0.7.1-1
   Upstream Author : Stefan Ott
 * URL : http://pidgin-privacy-please.googlecode.com/
 * License : GNU GPLv3
   Section : net

It builds those binary packages:

pidgin-privacy-please - plugin for enhanced privacy in pidgin

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/pidgin-privacy-please

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/pidgin-privacy-please/pidgin-privacy-please_0.7.1-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

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Re: RFS: pidgin-privacy-please

2011-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Stefan Ott ste...@ott.net writes:

 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

   dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/pidgin-privacy-please/pidgin-privacy-please_0.7.1-1.dsc

 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

I noticed two things with regards to the package:

* The copyright years in debian/copyright's upstream license part do not
  match the years of the upstream sources (2005-2008 vs 2005-2010)

* debian/copyright claims the license is GPLv2+, while upstream sources
  are GPLv3+.

Thus, debian/copyright would be in need of some minor updates, but
seeing as you're upstream too, these issues can be considered cosmetic,
in my opinion.

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Re: RFS: pidgin-privacy-please

2011-09-22 Thread Stefan Ott
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 13:46, Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu wrote:
 I noticed two things with regards to the package:

 * The copyright years in debian/copyright's upstream license part do not
  match the years of the upstream sources (2005-2008 vs 2005-2010)

 * debian/copyright claims the license is GPLv2+, while upstream sources
  are GPLv3+.

 Thus, debian/copyright would be in need of some minor updates, but
 seeing as you're upstream too, these issues can be considered cosmetic,
 in my opinion.

Thanks for noticing. I re-uploaded the package with a corrected
version of debian/copyright.

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Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Ole Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx writes:
 Is the division into main and contrib done automatically based on the
 dependencies to non-free packages?

No, it is done by hand using the Section field in debian/control.

 And if a package requires a non-free
 package to build, will it automatically go to contrib, even if the
 package itself (like libwcs4) has no dependency to non-free?

If it has a contrib/non-free build-dependency, the source package needs
to go to contrib as well.  It cannot build binaries in main in that
case.

Regards,
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Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi Ansgar,

Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes:
 Ole Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx writes:
 Is the division into main and contrib done automatically based on the
 dependencies to non-free packages?

 No, it is done by hand using the Section field in debian/control.

OK, so I have to add the flags there.

 If it has a contrib/non-free build-dependency, the source package needs
 to go to contrib as well.  It cannot build binaries in main in that
 case.

My problem here is: the source package contains libwcs which may be
built (and used) completely without non-free dependencies, and libpgsbox
which needs a non-free library to be built and used.

Is there a way to get libwcs into main and libpgsbox into contrib? Can I
specify build-dependencies separately for each binary package?

Best

Ole



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Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Ole Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx writes:

 If it has a contrib/non-free build-dependency, the source package needs
 to go to contrib as well.  It cannot build binaries in main in that
 case.

 My problem here is: the source package contains libwcs which may be
 built (and used) completely without non-free dependencies, and libpgsbox
 which needs a non-free library to be built and used.

 Is there a way to get libwcs into main and libpgsbox into contrib?

You have two options, I think (hopefully someone will correct me, if I'm
terribly wrong):

* Either don't build the part which (build-)depends on non-free, and
  don't ship it at all, then both the source and the resulting binaries
  can be in main.

* Split the source package into two: one that contains and builds only
  the completely free parts, and one that builds only the lib that'd go
  into contrib.

Personally, I would go with the first option, unless libpgsbox is really
desperately needed, and splitting the source package is worth the
effort.

  Can I specify build-dependencies separately for each binary package?

Nope, you cannot.

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Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Ole Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx, 2011-09-22, 09:51:

- libwcs4 and libwcs4-dev
- libpgsbox4 and libpgsbox4-dev


First of all, don't version your -dev package(s), unless you want to 
keep multiple versions of it in the archive at the same people. (You 
probably don't.)
Also, unless there's good reason to separate -dev package, I'd create 
just a single one.


So I would just create a common wcslib-dev package, correct?

And, which dependencies should the wcslib-dev package have?


A -dev package should have a strict versioned dependency on all the 
shared libraries it provides .so symlink for.


libpgsbox.a would contain references to pgplot5; which is non-free, old 
and ugly.


Wait, you link *statically* to a non-free library? That'd make your 
binary package contain non-free bits, and as a consequence the whole 
source package would have to go to non-free.


Also, now I notices that (at least according to your ITP), libwcs is 
licensed under the GPLv3+. We can't legally distribute GPLed software 
linked (statically or dynamically) to non-free stuff!


Or is the link here made with the suggests/enhances dependency? And 
what would then suggest what? libwcs4-dev suggests wcslib-doc, or 
vice versa?
You can use both. Or none. Users will find out which package they need 
anyway, so don't worry about it. :)


How would they do that?


apt-cache search? :)

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Re: Package separation/naming conventions

2011-09-22 Thread Ole Streicher
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes:
 A -dev package should have a strict versioned dependency on all the shared
 libraries it provides .so symlink for.

This is clear, but means that the wcslib-dev would depend on libpgsbox4,
and therefore on pgplot5, which is not nice.

 libpgsbox.a would contain references to pgplot5; which is non-free, old and
 ugly.
 Wait, you link *statically* to a non-free library? That'd make your binary
 package contain non-free bits, and as a consequence the whole source package
 would have to go to non-free.

No; it is just that libpgsbox.a has symbols that are resolved in
pgplot5. So, the library itself is not linked, but the user needs to
link libpgplot.a when he wants to statically link libpsgbox.a; which
means that the library itself is free but needs a non-free one.

 Also, now I notices that (at least according to your ITP), libwcs is licensed
 under the GPLv3+. We can't legally distribute GPLed software linked
 (statically or dynamically) to non-free stuff!

I will contact the original author to clarify this.

It seems that the easiest solution would be to remove the libpgsbox
stuff completely unless someone really needs it.

Best

Ole


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Re: mentors.debian.net moved to new hardware

2011-09-22 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:08:33 +0200
Arno Töll deb...@toell.net wrote:

 our (not so) old host running http://mentors.debian.net was replaced
 right before by shiny new hardware. For you, as user you shouldn't
 hopefully notice the switch. The new hardware is much more powerful and
 has plenty of disk space. Hence all problems with exhausted disk space
 and time-outing servers should not occur anymore.

Does it include the new version of debexpo that was soon to be deployed?
In particular I'm waiting for a bugfix to allow uploading to
experimental.


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Re: mentors.debian.net moved to new hardware

2011-09-22 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Tony,

On 22.09.2011 15:51, Tony Houghton wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:08:33 +0200
 Does it include the new version of debexpo that was soon to be deployed?
 In particular I'm waiting for a bugfix to allow uploading to
 experimental.

No, not yet - sorry. I intend to deploy that very soon, unfortunately I
still got no acknowledge from Asheesh, as the patch you are referring to
is embedded in a major change and can't easily cherry-picked.

As soon as we did, I will write a separate announcement. Sorry for the
hassle.

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RFS: kboot-utils -- needed for d-i to complete on PS3

2011-09-22 Thread Antonio Ospite
Hi Debian Mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package kboot-utils, it is needed
to make debian-installer complete a successful installation on
PlayStation3. I am also the upstream author.

* Package name: kboot-utils
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Antonio Ospite osp...@studenti.unina.it
* URL : http://git.ao2.it/kboot-utils.git/
* License : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: Posix shell

It builds the binary package: kboot-utils

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://bugs.debian.org/641465

The package can be downloaded with dget using this command:

  dget -u http://ao2.it/debian/kboot-utils_0.1-1.dsc

The source package can be now found in the 'debian' branch at:
  
  http://git.ao2.it/kboot-utils.git/

please keep in mind that I am still learning how to deal with
git-buildpackage.

The package has been tested with pbuilder, checked with lintian,
verified it is piuparts-clean, but there might very well still be
something worth fixing.

I packaged kboot-utils (Helper tools to generate a kboot.conf file) for
debian, and I'd like to ask if someone can *review* the package and 
maybe eventually sponsor me for upload to the main archive.
At the end of the day it will be needed to have a 100% working
installation on the PlayStation3, see Bug #619236:

  http://bugs.debian.org/619236

The plan is to first have kboot-utils in the official archive and then
make d-i install it when machine==PS3.

Thanks,
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Re: What to do about the situation with id3v2

2011-09-22 Thread Stefan Ott
Hello everyone

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 22:56, Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by wrote:
 You can also drop libid3 as it is now and write a wrapper around some
 better ID3 tagging library that has the same (or compatible) interface
 as libid3. Also, I'd merge id3 and id3v2 into one package, or even
 one binary, which would behave differently depending on its argv[0].

Well, here we are, several months later. I have since rewritten id3v2
to use taglib instead of libid3 and it seems to work reasonably well
[1]. I have informed upstream about my work but haven't received any
feedback so far. I thus assume that they are not particularly
interested in maintaining a thing that now consists of mostly my code
- I can't really blame them for that.

I also contacted several debian package maintainers whose packages use
libid3 and sent some patches along but so far without a whole lot of
success either. I guess they have more pressing things to worry about.

What this leaves me with, however, is an AFAICT working version of
id3v2 with support for id3v2.4 tags and nobody using it. After
re-reading this thread (and the last message in particular) I have now
come up with a cunning plan (which would probably have been obvious
from the very beginning to a greater mind): as I took over upstream
development of id3 [2] when I adopted the package, I'm thinking of
(ab)using that project for my id3v2 fork and replacing the debian id3
and id3v2 packages with this great new hopefully-working thing,
probably calling the new package id3 again. Once that is done, I
intend to orphan libid3 to make it obvious to everyone who still uses
it that they should seriously consider switching to something else
instead.

I realize that replacing a perfectly working little tool like id3 with
my mostly untested id3v2 fork might not be the nicest thing to do, but
at the moment it's the best solution I can come up with. Thus I was
wondering if any of you have any comments on this. Reasonble idea? The
most stupid thing you've heard in a while? Something in between? Any
feedback would be welcome.

[1] http://src.ott.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=id3v2;a=summary
[2] http://id3.googlecode.com/

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Re: RFS: libapache2-mod-socket-policy-server (an Apache2 module for serving Adobe socket policy files)

2011-09-22 Thread Daniel Kauffman

On 09/22/2011 02:38 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:

On 09/22/2011 03:32 PM, Daniel Kauffman wrote:


I didn't see a reference to quilt in the Debian Policy Manual and the
Debian New Maintainers' Guide section 2.9 seems to suggest that a
native package is ok where there is no upstream.


No. It's ok to do so when the software is intended only for
Debian (like, the Debian installer for example... I'm not even
sure that's the case, just an example), which isn't your case.



Thanks for the clarification regarding native vs. quilt, rebuilt using 
quilt. The updated package can be downloaded from:


  http://socketpolicyserver.com

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Question about menu files

2011-09-22 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia

Hi,

I have this in the menu file:

package(wmaker):needs=wmaker \
section=/ title=Exit sort=ZZ \
command=EXIT

And I got this lintian error:

W: wmaker: menu-command-not-in-package usr/share/menu/wmaker:6 EXIT
W: wmaker: menu-item-needs-tag-has-unknown-value wmaker 
usr/share/menu/wmaker:6

N:
N:The menu item has a line that has a needs= field with a strange 
value.
N:This may be intentional, but it's probably a typo that will make 
menu

N:ignore the line.
N:
N:Severity: minor, Certainty: certain
N:
N:Check: menu-format, Type: binary

Yes, is not a command. What should I do? I cannot find more info about 
how to add the EXIT, SHUTDOWN,... commands.


Thanks a lot,

Best Regards,

kix

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Re: RFS: kboot-utils -- needed for d-i to complete on PS3

2011-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Antonio Ospite osp...@studenti.unina.it writes:

 I packaged kboot-utils (Helper tools to generate a kboot.conf file) for
 debian, and I'd like to ask if someone can *review* the package and 
 maybe eventually sponsor me for upload to the main archive.

While I can't sponsor you, I did have a quick glance over the packaging,
and would have a few comments:

* lintian reports

Lintian in Sid does report a few issues with the packaging, such as:

P: kboot-utils source: unversioned-copyright-format-uri 
http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5
P: kboot-utils: copyright-refers-to-symlink-license 
usr/share/common-licenses/GPL

I would also extend the copyright file so that the GPL-3+ license block
contains more than just a pointer to the GPL-3. (See the How to apply
these terms to your new programs section of the GPL).

* README

You install the README file, but is that really neccessary? It doesn't
add anything over the package's long description, as far as I see.

* debian/rules

While the rules file is exactly the same as the sample, I'd still
suggest removing the comments about the file being a sample. After all,
it is used in a package that's targeted for Debian - it's real, live,
production ready and so on and so forth - not a sample anymore, even if
it's pretty much three lines total.

Other than these little cosmetic issues, I didn't find anything else
that'd be suspicious as far as packaging is concerned.

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Re: What to do about the situation with id3v2

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Stefan Ott wrote:

 I realize that replacing a perfectly working little tool like id3 with
 my mostly untested id3v2 fork might not be the nicest thing to do, but
 at the moment it's the best solution I can come up with. Thus I was
 wondering if any of you have any comments on this. Reasonble idea? The
 most stupid thing you've heard in a while? Something in between? Any
 feedback would be welcome.

Draining the audio file tag reading swamp can only be a good idea.

Please get some more testing done (by debian-user or where-ever)
before you embark on this project.

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