Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-17 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Or you can point people who don't want to learn how to package things properly I don't care about those either -- the intended audience was those that could use a tutorial to get a feel for the process before they make up their mind about how to package things properly and to eventually adopt

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 00:49, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: ps. please CC me on replies as I'm not subscribed to d-mentors On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:20, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: ps. Please DON'T CC me on replies, I've had enough of this ahahah -- Sandro Tosi

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-17 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Can you take discussions like these to d-d? Cause I think any prospective packagers just turn away after reading threads like these. Is it possible to keep these list for mentees to talk to sponsors about questions problems and RFS and not use it as d-d death match platform. Could you please

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 00:53, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: There's a tradeoff: encouraging potential new contributors (in the hope that and do you think you're in position to take this tradeoff? I don't think so. they'll eventually read all the docs) at the cost of initially

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-16 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Sandro, in your first reply, you suggested 3 alternatives, one of which was fix it. You seem to be quite upset despite me taking into account your specific suggestions for improvements. I'm just curious, what more would it take for you to consider it fixed? I see your point about low-quality RFSs

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 22:19, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: Sandro, in your first reply, you suggested 3 alternatives, one of which was fix it. You seem to be quite upset despite me taking into account your specific suggestions for improvements. I'm just curious, what more would it

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-16 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:48:07PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote [edited]: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 22:19, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: re-evaluating your contributions it's a complete waste of time, so That was the whole point: my contributions weren't good enough and I asked what

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-16 Thread Stefanos Harhalakis
On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 00:53, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: There's a tradeoff: encouraging potential new contributors (in the hope that and do you think you're in position to take this tradeoff? I don't think so. they'll

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-15 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 00:49, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: Hi, Those interested in packaging, but not certain about making a long-term commitment might be interested in a practical primer for QA uploads: http://wiki.debian.org/QAUploadsPrimer (A QA upload is a one-off

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-15 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Thanks for the feedback Sandro. I've written the primer for technical-minded debian users that (a) want to contribute to debian, but are uncertain about their long-term time-commitment; and (b) given their uncertain commitment, won't read the whole policy, devref, and newmaint guide just for the

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-15 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 23:00, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: Thanks for the feedback Sandro. I've written the primer for technical-minded debian users that (a) want to contribute to debian, but are uncertain about their long-term time-commitment; and (b) given their uncertain

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-15 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:01:30AM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 23:00, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: Thanks for the feedback Sandro. I've written the primer for technical-minded debian users that (a) want to contribute to debian, but are uncertain about

Re: FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:53:32AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:01:30AM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 23:00, Serafeim Zanikolasser...@hellug.gr wrote: Thanks for the feedback Sandro. I've written the primer for technical-minded debian

FYI: QA uploads primer

2009-06-14 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Hi, Those interested in packaging, but not certain about making a long-term commitment might be interested in a practical primer for QA uploads: http://wiki.debian.org/QAUploadsPrimer (A QA upload is a one-off maintenance act of an orphaned package (as opposed to an upload that declares one's