Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:23:39PM +0100, David Given wrote: > (Incidentally, the more I look at fakechroot the more I'm coming to believe > that it's no use for anything whatsoever. The security aspects of it are... > erm... nil; it's trivial for the client app to break out of its jail. Is this >

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-24 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: [...] > Then what about using ptrace and overriding syscalls in the way > usermodelinux used to do it? Yes, indeed; that is currently looking like the best approach. Not only does it provide the low-level interface that upstream

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread Jack T Mudge III
On Thursday 23 August 2007 17:26, David Given wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > [...] > > > The people who have responded to you so far strongly suspect that it's > > not worth the effort, but without knowing why the glibc we already > > distribute can't be used, it's hard for us to give you a defini

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/08/07 at 01:26 +0100, David Given wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Don Armstrong wrote: > [...] > > The people who have responded to you so far strongly suspect that it's > > not worth the effort, but without knowing why the glibc we already > > distribute can't b

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don Armstrong wrote: [...] > The people who have responded to you so far strongly suspect that it's > not worth the effort, but without knowing why the glibc we already > distribute can't be used, it's hard for us to give you a definitive > answer. *n

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, David Given wrote: > Currently I am merely trying to figure out whether upstream's idea > of using a customised glibc is possible on Debian It's always possible to do so. However, actually doing so requires that you convince the security team, the maintainer(s), and the releas

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Williams wrote: [...] > Do the work and come back to the list with > a detailed reasoning for what is a MAJOR packaging decision. This isn't > "yet another customised version of a package" it is a COPY of GLIBC! Don't shout at me, please. Yes, I

Re: Package requiring a customised version of libc6

2007-08-23 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:26:35 +0100 David Given <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please can you give the details of why this is necessary? > > It's an LD_PRELOAD hack. When glibc calls itself --- for example when fopen() > calls open() --- it does so using a hidden private interface, which means the